{"id":8210,"date":"2001-08-20T00:00:00","date_gmt":"2001-08-20T00:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.staging28.planetswans.co.uk\/?p=8210"},"modified":"2020-09-22T11:26:01","modified_gmt":"2020-09-22T11:26:01","slug":"we-dont-score-goals","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/jackarmy.net\/wp67\/2001\/08\/20\/we-dont-score-goals\/","title":{"rendered":"We Don&#8217;t Score Goals?"},"content":{"rendered":"<table>\n<tr>\n<td colspan=\"9\">John says &#8220;I was not happy with the result because I know we can do better. &#8220;I will be working hard with the boys to make sure we finish off our good moves in the future.&#8221;<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td colspan=\"9\"><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td colspan=\"9\">OK, Saturday was John&#8217;s 140th league match in charge of Swansea City (excluding two play-off matches) and this is his overall league record<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td colspan=\"9\"><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Season<\/td>\n<td>P<\/td>\n<td>W<\/td>\n<td>D<\/td>\n<td>L<\/td>\n<td>F<\/td>\n<td>A<\/td>\n<td>Pts<\/td>\n<td>GD<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>1998-1999<\/td>\n<td>46<\/td>\n<td>19<\/td>\n<td>14<\/td>\n<td>13<\/td>\n<td>56<\/td>\n<td>47<\/td>\n<td>71<\/td>\n<td>9<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>1999-2000<\/td>\n<td>46<\/td>\n<td>24<\/td>\n<td>13<\/td>\n<td>9<\/td>\n<td>51<\/td>\n<td>30<\/td>\n<td>85<\/td>\n<td>21<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>2000-2001<\/td>\n<td>46<\/td>\n<td>8<\/td>\n<td>13<\/td>\n<td>25<\/td>\n<td>47<\/td>\n<td>73<\/td>\n<td>37<\/td>\n<td>-26<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>2001-2002<\/td>\n<td>2<\/td>\n<td>1<\/td>\n<td>1<\/td>\n<td>0<\/td>\n<td>3<\/td>\n<td>1<\/td>\n<td>4<\/td>\n<td>2<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Totals<\/td>\n<td>140<\/td>\n<td>52<\/td>\n<td>41<\/td>\n<td>47<\/td>\n<td>157<\/td>\n<td>151<\/td>\n<td>197<\/td>\n<td>6<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td colspan=\"9\"><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td colspan=\"9\">157 goals in 140 league games, hardly surprising then that we are drawing so many blanks at the moment. It&#8217;s been the same story for most of those 140 games. Let&#8217;s break those stats down a little further<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<table>\n<tr>\n<td>Swansea City<\/td>\n<td>Opposition<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>45<\/td>\n<td>Failed To Score<\/td>\n<td>47<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>52<\/td>\n<td>1 Goal<\/td>\n<td>56<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>29<\/td>\n<td>2 Goals<\/td>\n<td>24<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>11<\/td>\n<td>3 Goals<\/td>\n<td>7<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>2<\/td>\n<td>4 Goals<\/td>\n<td>3<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>0<\/td>\n<td>5 Goals<\/td>\n<td>3<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>1<\/td>\n<td>6 Goals<\/td>\n<td>0<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<table>\n<tr>\n<td>The average score in a league game under John Hollins is Swansea 1.12 The Opposition 1.08. It doesn&#8217;t exactly bode for high scoring games week in week out does it?<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Steve Watkin is the leading scorer in the league under John Hollins with 32 league goals (just over 20%) whilst 4 of the next five on the list (Giovanni Savarese, Julian Alsop, Jason Price and Walter Boyd) are no longer at the club. Again, it hardly bodes for consistent goalscoring. A look at the table below shows who has scored (and in how many appearances giving their games per goal ratio as well)<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<table>\n<tr>\n<td>Player<\/td>\n<td>Starts<\/td>\n<td>Subs<\/td>\n<td>Total<\/td>\n<td>Goals<\/td>\n<td>Apps Per Goal<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Steve Watkin<\/td>\n<td>103<\/td>\n<td>14<\/td>\n<td>117<\/td>\n<td>32<\/td>\n<td>3.66<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Jason Price<\/td>\n<td>101<\/td>\n<td>7<\/td>\n<td>108<\/td>\n<td>14<\/td>\n<td>7.71<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Julian Alsop<\/td>\n<td>66<\/td>\n<td>12<\/td>\n<td>78<\/td>\n<td>13<\/td>\n<td>6.00<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Giovanni Savarese<\/td>\n<td>28<\/td>\n<td>3<\/td>\n<td>31<\/td>\n<td>12<\/td>\n<td>2.58<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Nick Cusack<\/td>\n<td>117<\/td>\n<td>11<\/td>\n<td>128<\/td>\n<td>10<\/td>\n<td>12.80<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Walter Boyd<\/td>\n<td>35<\/td>\n<td>8<\/td>\n<td>43<\/td>\n<td>10<\/td>\n<td>4.30<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Stuart Roberts<\/td>\n<td>47<\/td>\n<td>34<\/td>\n<td>81<\/td>\n<td>9<\/td>\n<td>9.00<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Martin Thomas<\/td>\n<td>70<\/td>\n<td>21<\/td>\n<td>91<\/td>\n<td>8<\/td>\n<td>11.38<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Matthew Bound<\/td>\n<td>127<\/td>\n<td>1<\/td>\n<td>128<\/td>\n<td>7<\/td>\n<td>18.29<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Jon Coates<\/td>\n<td>89<\/td>\n<td>6<\/td>\n<td>95<\/td>\n<td>7<\/td>\n<td>13.57<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Richie Appleby<\/td>\n<td>46<\/td>\n<td>19<\/td>\n<td>65<\/td>\n<td>7<\/td>\n<td>9.29<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Jason Smith<\/td>\n<td>107<\/td>\n<td>0<\/td>\n<td>107<\/td>\n<td>5<\/td>\n<td>21.40<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Kristian O&#8217;Leary<\/td>\n<td>49<\/td>\n<td>13<\/td>\n<td>62<\/td>\n<td>4<\/td>\n<td>15.50<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Tony Bird<\/td>\n<td>16<\/td>\n<td>27<\/td>\n<td>43<\/td>\n<td>4<\/td>\n<td>10.75<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Steve Jones<\/td>\n<td>78<\/td>\n<td>4<\/td>\n<td>82<\/td>\n<td>3<\/td>\n<td>27.33<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Mattias Verschave<\/td>\n<td>12<\/td>\n<td>0<\/td>\n<td>12<\/td>\n<td>3<\/td>\n<td>4.00<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Michael Howard<\/td>\n<td>118<\/td>\n<td>3<\/td>\n<td>121<\/td>\n<td>1<\/td>\n<td>121.00<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Ryan Casey<\/td>\n<td>8<\/td>\n<td>22<\/td>\n<td>30<\/td>\n<td>1<\/td>\n<td>30.00<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Gareth Phillips<\/td>\n<td>13<\/td>\n<td>8<\/td>\n<td>21<\/td>\n<td>1<\/td>\n<td>21.00<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Nicholas Fabiano<\/td>\n<td>12<\/td>\n<td>4<\/td>\n<td>16<\/td>\n<td>1<\/td>\n<td>16.00<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Chris Todd<\/td>\n<td>13<\/td>\n<td>1<\/td>\n<td>14<\/td>\n<td>1<\/td>\n<td>14.00<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Mamady Sidebe<\/td>\n<td>2<\/td>\n<td>0<\/td>\n<td>2<\/td>\n<td>1<\/td>\n<td>2.00<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td colspan=\"6\">Players not in Bold text are no longer at the club<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<table>\n<tr>\n<td>If you take those still at the club and put a minimum of five goals in there to give some idea then this clearly shows that Steve Watkin is (frighteningly) the most prolific goalscorer at the club with a goal every 3.66 games and the next nearest is Stuart Roberts at one every nine games.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Taking Roger Freestone out of the equation, Saturday&#8217;s starting line-up has 575 league starts between them under Hollins with a further 108 substitute appearances. The same 10 players have scored 62 league goals under Hollins between them. 1 Goal every 11 appearances. Add the two substitute appearances and that changes to 621 starts &#038; 129 subs with 69 goals.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>And John Hollins is surprised that we don&#8217;t score many goals? The stats don&#8217;t lie.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>One final thought from me on this particular subject. Of all the players who have scored a league goal under John Hollins, we can split them into two categories &#8211; those that are at the club and those that are not.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<table>\n<tr>\n<td>Category<\/td>\n<td>Starts<\/td>\n<td>Subs<\/td>\n<td>Total<\/td>\n<td>Goals<\/td>\n<td>Apps Per Goal<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Still Here<\/td>\n<td>839<\/td>\n<td>132<\/td>\n<td>971<\/td>\n<td>86<\/td>\n<td>11.29<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Gone<\/td>\n<td>418<\/td>\n<td>86<\/td>\n<td>504<\/td>\n<td>68<\/td>\n<td>7.41<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<table>\n<tr>\n<td>In short, the goalscorers appear to have gone. This statistic looks worse if you take Steve Watkin out as the &#8216;prolific man&#8217;<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<table>\n<tr>\n<td>Category<\/td>\n<td>Starts<\/td>\n<td>Subs<\/td>\n<td>Total<\/td>\n<td>Goals<\/td>\n<td>Apps Per Goal<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Still Here<\/td>\n<td>736<\/td>\n<td>118<\/td>\n<td>854<\/td>\n<td>54<\/td>\n<td>15.81<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Gone<\/td>\n<td>418<\/td>\n<td>86<\/td>\n<td>504<\/td>\n<td>68<\/td>\n<td>7.41<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<table>\n<tr>\n<td>Better hope that he doesn&#8217;t get injured on this basis. 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