People are judging Coleman and the results are plain to see

Sunday, 18 August 2024, 7:29
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The first home league game of the season is a traditional highly attended game,ย  fans will normally head back in their numbers to catch a first home glimpse at the new summer signings and see how the work of pre-season pans out.

For the Swans that first home league game arrived yesterday afternoon when Preston North End arrived in SA1 and were duly despatched by the Swans in a 3-0 win that was as comprehensive as the scoreline suggests even though it was clear to see that there is still work to be done and whilst the positives were good, the better news (if you look at it that way) is that there are still definite improvements that can be made.

It is no wonder that Luke Williams was a happy man when he addressed the press yesterday evening and he knows that next Sunday he will be greeted with a near capacity crowd as Cardiff arrive in SA1 for the first of the two South Wales derby clashes of the season.

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Behind the scenes though this morning there should be much concern at those who control the purse strings as to exactly why there were so many empty seats around the Swansea.com Stadium.ย  ย An official attendance – referenced on the Swans TV commentary – of just over 14,000 was placed against a reality picture that there were certainly less than 13,000 in the Stadium with best guesses maybe suggesting that number was nearer 12,000.ย  ย For the first home game of a league season that is a worrying statistic and certainly a reflection of the fact that the club remains in decline under the current ownership model.

This was a point that we raised on X yesterday evening, generating a huge amount of responses (and in fairness not all were in agreement with the view) but the general response is an overall indication that the fans have done exactly what Andy Coleman asked them to do and that is judge him by his actions.

Andy Coleman arrived in Swansea in May 2023.ย  ย During that time he is just coming to the end of his third transfer window, he appointed (and sacked just a few months later) Michael Duff and spent a month looking to replace him when he made that decision to dispense with Duff in December.ย  ย He has constantly talked about our windows being planned out and that we will take action early and in the second and third he is proving that we leave things to the last minute.ย  ย The less said about the first of the windows he oversaw the better and signatures since that first window have been sparse although, in the interests of balance, have generically been better.

We continually here that “it is difficult to get deals over the line” but as much of that will be down to the way that we undertake our negotiation business as it is a genuinely difficult position to get deals over the line.ย  ย After all, other sides seem to manage it.ย  ย Last season we were prompting up the club’s finances to the tune (at the end of the season) of ยฃ2.5m per month, some of which is down to poor previous transfer business but some of that is down to the fact that we have allowed general expenses to spiral out of control and, no matter what people tell you, there is no way that Coleman and Gude (and anyone else you want to include here) is working here free of charge.

The club – as we know – has been being prepared for a sale for several years now but there is also a reason why buyers have not been overly forthcoming.ย  ย In eight years of this ownership group we have regressed from a side that was relatively comfortable (but never totally safe) in the Premier League to one that is what you would class as lower mid table in the Championship at best.ย  ย Pushes for the play offs under Steve Cooper have been replaced by an over reliance on average Championship players on a frequent basis and a style of football that doesn’t resemble the Swansea Way as often as we are told our strategy desires it to be.

These are all reasons why the empty seats were more prevalent around the Swansea.com Stadium yesterday.ย  People are simply voting with their feet.ย  Too many have progressed from being season ticket holders to occasional attendees at the stadium and, with the development of the new Sky deal and the readily available TV coverage outside it, people are just choosing not to attend matches more and more.

The new ownership continually work with “our Supportersโ€™ Trust” (words used by Andy Coleman in yesterday’s programme) around the matchday experience but all seem to have lost sight of the fact that the matchday experience for a football fan is determined by the performance and result on the pitch and all too often in recent seasons that has been left so far lacking that people don’t turn up.ย  ย Steve Cooper and Russell Martin were not backed in the way that they wanted and now both manage in the Premier League whilst, as good as the four signings have been this summer, we are anywhere between four and six more players short of having a squad that can compete at a higher level in this division on a consistent basis.ย  Yesterday’s performance was good but it will take a shift much more than ninety minutes to entice people back to the stadium on a frequent basis.

So whilst there can no doubt be excuses referenced for yesterday’s attendance the reality remains that they are just that – excuses.ย  The facts remain that Andy Coleman asked us to judge him on his actions and that is exactly what many are already doing.ย  We know that next week will be a big crowd and big attendance but games against Norwich, Bristol City and Stoke that follow that will tell a very different story and no amount of different music, food, flags and other initiatives will change that – quality signings made with intent to improve the team will do that.

And if those aren’t realisations that are dawning this morning behind the scenes then there will be more bumpy days ahead as more people become disillusioned with the club.ย  ย Andy Coleman is not going to turn the way that people are feeling around overnight (apathy is a word I heard several times yesterday) but he has to start making strides in the right direction relatively quickly or the reality could be that a league attendance could drop below 10,000.

It’s over to you Andy.

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Captain_Sham

Lee Trundle

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Opening day of 14 k is poor.
We were getting 11k crowds at Xmas the season we went up under Rodgers. We were floating around the playoffs but I don't recall going up ever seeming likely at that stage.
It goes to show how easily swayed we are.
We went from 11k to sold out every game in 4 months.
Its taken 14 years to get back to that but here we are.

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Lee Trundle

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I haven't attended a game in over a year now. As long as these fkers remain in charge that wont be changing.( I dont mean Williams. I quite like him as it goes. I mean the Septics )

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Dillwyn the Dog

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I think the malaise is more to do with our very slow build up play but yesterday was a stark contrast. The attendances will pick up quickly, especially if we win well next Sunday .

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Gors Buster

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In my opinion, there were 3 games in particular from a few months ago, that have contributed to the walk up fans staying away. Big crowds and really, really poor performances where our strikers barely touched the ball.
Sheffield Wednesday (on a high after the derby)
QPR (bumper bank holiday crowd)
Millwall (big crowd, last game of the season).
Mates in work, football or up the pub who went to watch one of those games were not impressed.
Hopefully a quick win back if we can keep entertaining.

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Ivor Allchurch

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There most definitely is an element of fans wanting to be entertained.
There are also elements of the time of year (summer holidays still being in full flight) combined with cost of living
People find it harder to justify ticket prices, especially season tickets if they are not enjoying what they are seeing
Love and loyalty for their club only goes so far, especially when that money spent is being perceived to go to the owners rather than to the club (however true that may be)

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Lee Trundle

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Sunderland have 40 k there today. Whilst gate money doesn't mean much in the Prem it does in our league. They should really be challengers.

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Roger Freestone

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I donโ€™t think entertainment is the right word. Miwaw fans have been entertained by coming back from 2-0 down twice and the losing both to late goals.

I think itโ€™s more that we need excitement from our play by attacking with intent or, if not that, just winning. The games last season where goodwill was chucked away was with shit Russ-type-ball and losing to terrible teams, hardly troubling their defence or goalie. In fact, just like the Boro game only last week.

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Alan Waddle

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Lots of apathy among the fan base.. walking backwards football will never catch on in the get you off your seat world.

Maybe we are turning the corner now

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Alan Waddle

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It's not a surprise. The Americans have taken the piss out of the supporters for way too long.

Many people have been very patient with them, commendably so, allowing them time to prove they can learn from their mistakes and change the way they run the club.

They have not. And some people have finally snapped and run out of patience. I don't blame them.

If you treat fans with contempt, don't be surprised if eventually they return the favour.

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LeonWasTheDogs

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Death by a thousands cuts spring to mind. Itโ€™s not always bad, but often when we do have a good game itโ€™s been followed by dross. Over time that builds and people start drifting away. Throw in a disconnected ownership group, the atrocious management of last summerโ€™s window, including hiring a manager who couldnโ€™t be a worst fit and looked as happy to be here as at a wakeโ€ฆit all adds up.

Thereโ€™s not a lot for people to be enthused about. Weโ€™ve had a few good games. Off the pitch, Ronald seemed to be the only thing to wake anyone up. But weโ€™ve signed a few promising looking signings this summer, so fingers crossed we may have a better season.

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