Franco

[Smurph]

Does anyone think we're in any danger of losing him in the summer? (Franco)

I think we could be in danger of losing him at the end of next season.

 

[bakajack]

I think we could be in danger of losing him at the end of next season.

Any half competent scouting departments will already be more than aware of him.
If any had watched the Hull match they would have been recommending their clubs to buy him with top marks

We are fortunate for two reasons:

1. It is only his first season in the English leagues, other clubs may want to wait and see how he develops for another season before committing to buying

2. He is only one year into a four year contract period, that combined with his relatively young age (24) puts us firmly in the driving seat when it comes to demanding top prices. Hopefully the new ownership and DoF actually know how to drive a bargain unlike the previous leadership

 

[Smurph]

Any half competent scouting departments will already be more than aware of him.
If any had watched the Hull match they would have been recommending their clubs to buy him with top marks

We are fortunate for two reasons:

1. It is only his first season in the English leagues, other clubs may want to wait and see how he develops for another season before committing to buying

2. He is only one year into a four year contract period, that combined with his relatively young age (24) puts us firmly in the driving seat when it comes to demanding top prices. Hopefully the new ownership and DoF actually know how to drive a bargain unlike the previous leadership

He's a rough diamonds at the moment who needs another season in this league before he potentially comes on the radar of so called bigger teams.

A decent performance against Hull is great, he needs to be producing those type of performances week in week out.

 

[Swans Jack]

Does anyone think we're in any danger of losing him in the summer? (Franco)

Defo not. His contract is a long one and he is not the finished product. If he improves and he will next summer might be a test to keep him.

 

[Dillwyn the Dog]

If Sheehan gets the role. I guarantee Fulton will see his contract out. The guy has always been a player who liked a yellow and that crazy red card in the final, few years ago. Fulton is a player who doesn't bring anything to the team. Sadly he won't be going anytime soon.

I’ll temper that by saying that Fulton was one of two actually trying in that game

 

[SwanseaJack]

Spoken with some apparent "ITK's" (and heard others say similar), they reckon he is 100% off in the summer and there has been enquiries already.

Hope they are all wrong, but given his performances this year whilst settling I would not be surprised at all...

 

[bakajack]

Spoken with some apparent "ITK's" (and heard others say similar), they reckon he is 100% off in the summer and there has been enquiries already.

Hope they are all wrong, but given his performances this year whilst settling I would not be surprised at all...

Unless he has a buyout clause that says otherwise in his contract the club can afford to play hardball if this were true.

£25m not a penny less, he has another three years left on his contract, he is only 24 years old and will only get better with more time in the Championship and the English football pyramid in general.

 

[SwanseaJack]

Unless he has a buyout clause that says otherwise in his contract the club can afford to play hardball if this were true.

£25m not a penny less, he has another three years left on his contract, he is only 24 years old and will only get better with more time in the Championship and the English football pyramid in general.

Completely agree with you, IF it is true then we are in no need to be low balled.

Sort of player that makes it very easy to fall in love with, here is to hoping he is here next year!

 

[magicdaps10]

Every player is a available at the right price.
I would say 25M is a bit too adventurous but certainly 10M plus is achievable and fair.

I would be happier to keep, if he was to go then the positives would be that we could replace and strengthen in other areas.

 

[SwanseaJack]

Every player is a available at the right price.
I would say 25M is a bit too adventurous but certainly 10M plus is achievable and fair.

I would be happier to keep, if he was to go then the positives would be that we could replace and strengthen in other areas.

If he were to go then that would be a full midfield rebuild starting with only Widell, here is to hoping that he stays

 

[bakajack]

Every player is a available at the right price.
I would say 25M is a bit too adventurous but certainly 10M plus is achievable and fair.

I would be happier to keep, if he was to go then the positives would be that we could replace and strengthen in other areas.

Absolutely not, if a young defender from the team currently the joint worst in Premier League history is worth £70m+ then there is no chance at all that Franco is only one seventh as valuable as that.

£10m plus addons is the price that we had to accept for Piroe with one year left on his contract

Franco is a star player we can build our entire team around for the next half a decade and he will only get better. Time, talent and the length of his contract are all on our side. If a club wants a player with 3 years on his contract remaining then its a seller's market, not a buyer's one. Pay what we demand or GTFO

 

[Captain_Sham]

Moneyball see moneyball do. You have to applaud good decisions when you see them. Signing him was a very good decision(whover it was) You cant choose to ignore positive actions by those you are idealistically opposed to, unless you are a neglible human being. People I disagree with do positive things every day.

 

[magicdaps10]

Absolutely not, if a young defender from the team currently the joint worst in Premier League history is worth £70m+ then there is no chance at all that Franco is only one seventh as valuable as that.

£10m plus addons is the price that we had to accept for Piroe with one year left on his contract

Franco is a star player we can build our entire team around for the next half a decade and he will only get better. Time, talent and the length of his contract are all on our side. If a club wants a player with 3 years on his contract remaining then its a seller's market, not a buyer's one. Pay what we demand or GTFO

I take your points and agree with some.

Issue we have, we are losing money and Franco will be 25 this year so closes the window a bit in regards to value. We need to also take into consideration if there is a buy out fee in his contract and what % there is to his former club.

If we got 15M for him then we would have done fantastic in my eyes.

 

[Copamundial]

Didn’t think that much of Franco under Williams if I’m honest been a revelation under Sheehan, some of the valuation’s being placed on him in this thread are crazy though….5 million if we were lucky.

 

[bakajack]

I take your points and agree with some.

Issue we have, we are losing money and Franco will be 25 this year so closes the window a bit in regards to value. We need to also take into consideration if there is a buy out fee in his contract and what % there is to his former club.

If we got 15M for him then we would have done fantastic in my eyes.

I take back what I said somewhat, its not a defender I was thinking of its a winger...
A winger who has contributed 2 goals and 1 assist in 29 games and Southampton think they can get £100m for him

25 is no problem for a midfielder, one who looks after himself properly will be playing to the top of his game until he is 30 maybe even older if he is a model pro. You could argue that this is the golden period for this type of player who typically play at their finest in their mid to late 20s.

As I said a buyout clause could make this conversation irrelevant if it exists, but if it does not then 20-25m would absolutely have to be our asking price for a player who we know can rule a midfield and become a fan favourite no matter where he goes.