• Thank you very much | Diolch yn fawr

    All at JackArmy.net would like to thank everyone who has played a part on this site over the past 25 years whether that is through writing, contributing, moderating, posting or just visting and reading.

    Without any of you the work that has gone into the site would have been pointless and we will always be proud that we built, generated and managed a community that was such a big part of the Swansea City supporting life for so long.

    It has been a pleasure to bring to you the site for so long but the time is now right to turn the lights out for the last time but we do it both with a heavy heart and a sense of pride driven by the so many messages received since we announced the closure.

    The site will remain here for a period until we archive and mothball it for the last time later this summer but all aspects are in a read only format.

    Thank you though for all the memories

    Phil Sumbler
    Owner, jackarmy.net

Where will people be posting

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This morning, I have spoken to my son (a former Swansea ST holder), who is currently having his company's website overhauled by an old friend of his who is a professional website designer. My son contacted the guy, who now lives in Australia, and he responded immediately by saying "uppa Swans" ! I didn't know he'd been to Swansea Uni and went to a few games while he lived there so he already has some affection for the place and team. My son sent him a link direct to the existing forum so he now has a pretty good idea of the sort of thing we need.

Anyway, his initial reponse was that it would be easy for him to set up and he asked a) would I be running it (I said yes, I suppose so) and b) would I be moderating it (I said preferably not, but existing mods have already offered). He's looking into it and will come back to me or my son shortly regarding costs and timescale. I have a good feeling that this could have legs.

Watch this space.
 
This morning, I have spoken to my son (a former Swansea ST holder), who is currently having his company's website overhauled by an old friend of his who is a professional website designer. My son contacted the guy, who now lives in Australia, and he responded immediately by saying "uppa Swans" ! I didn't know he'd been to Swansea Uni and went to a few games while he lived there so he already has some affection for the place and team. My son sent him a link direct to the existing forum so he now has a pretty good idea of the sort of thing we need.

Anyway, his initial reponse was that it would be easy for him to set up and he asked a) would I be running it (I said yes, I suppose so) and b) would I be moderating it (I said preferably not, but existing mods have already offered). He's looking into it and will come back to me or my son shortly regarding costs and timescale. I have a good feeling that this could have legs.

Watch this space.
And that’s an example of the community of this board ❤️

It may be dysfunctional but aren’t most families these days 🤣
 
This morning, I have spoken to my son (a former Swansea ST holder), who is currently having his company's website overhauled by an old friend of his who is a professional website designer. My son contacted the guy, who now lives in Australia, and he responded immediately by saying "uppa Swans" ! I didn't know he'd been to Swansea Uni and went to a few games while he lived there so he already has some affection for the place and team. My son sent him a link direct to the existing forum so he now has a pretty good idea of the sort of thing we need.

Anyway, his initial reponse was that it would be easy for him to set up and he asked a) would I be running it (I said yes, I suppose so) and b) would I be moderating it (I said preferably not, but existing mods have already offered). He's looking into it and will come back to me or my son shortly regarding costs and timescale. I have a good feeling that this could have legs.

Watch this space.
Great, I would love for something similar to this to still be kicking around post May.
No offense to the Indy but their forum looks like it was made during the era of myspace
 
I've been building websites since 2002.

This site uses the NewsUp WordPress theme (59 dollars/year) and
Xenforo for the forum (100 dollars a month). or a one-time $200 fee if we host/manage

There would be a one-time cost migrating users (members)

It would also need hosting, a domain name, and SSL certs, costing around 300/year

It could be set up to look identical. Obviously, would not do that. Respect for Phil.


But then comes the hard bit.
Who would moderate it?
Who would provide content (amateur journos/writers)?
And then the obvious handling of legal issues and their costs
 
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I've been building websites since 2002.

This site uses the NewsUp WordPress theme (59 dollars/year) and
Xenforo for the forum (100 dollars a month).

There would be a one-time cost migrating users (members)

It would also need hosting, a domain name, and SSL certs, costing around 300/year

It could be set up to look identical. Obviously, would not do that. Respect for Phil.


But then comes the hard bit.
Who would moderate it?
Who would provide content (amateur journos/writers)?
And then the obvious handling of legal issues and their costs
Not that most of us would touch them with a ten foot pole but if only we had a supporter's trust that we had paid subs into for years who could fund that.
 
This morning, I have spoken to my son (a former Swansea ST holder), who is currently having his company's website overhauled by an old friend of his who is a professional website designer. My son contacted the guy, who now lives in Australia, and he responded immediately by saying "uppa Swans" ! I didn't know he'd been to Swansea Uni and went to a few games while he lived there so he already has some affection for the place and team. My son sent him a link direct to the existing forum so he now has a pretty good idea of the sort of thing we need.

Anyway, his initial reponse was that it would be easy for him to set up and he asked a) would I be running it (I said yes, I suppose so) and b) would I be moderating it (I said preferably not, but existing mods have already offered). He's looking into it and will come back to me or my son shortly regarding costs and timescale. I have a good feeling that this could have legs.

Watch this space.
I’ve sent you a message.
 
K23 - the costs are in my message above,

excluding

if anyone needed to be paid for setting it up

moderating it
providing content / articles
legal representation for issues when they arise
 
And that’s an example of the community of this board ❤️

It may be dysfunctional but aren’t most families these days 🤣
Absolutely, most of the real characters in sport and life in general are one sandwich short of a picnic , me included.
 
I've been building websites since 2002.

This site uses the NewsUp WordPress theme (59 dollars/year) and
Xenforo for the forum (100 dollars a month). or a one-time $200 fee if we host/manage

There would be a one-time cost migrating users (members)

It would also need hosting, a domain name, and SSL certs, costing around 300/year

It could be set up to look identical. Obviously, would not do that. Respect for Phil.


But then comes the hard bit.
Who would moderate it?
Who would provide content (amateur journos/writers)?
And then the obvious handling of legal issues and their costs
I wouldn't be against a small annual membership fee or subscription to keep a site up and running, say £10.
 
I'm only guessing here as I haven't talked to Phil about it, but I would think the real burden of a site like this is a combo of having to be the adult in the room in among a gaggle of squabbling kids (us) and even more, having to be the person ultimately responsible for the content when that content upsets...others....out there; content that might lead to threats of legal action or just constant demands to take stuff down/edit etc. Moderation can help with that, but you are ultimately responsible and I can absolutely see that being a pain in the arse, especially if you are in a place in your life where you have a lot going on anyway.

People talk about articles etc, but I've always thought this site doesn't really need any - and I use to write a lot of them back in the day. The forum is 99% of what this site it about, so I don't think anyone need worry about 'who'e going to write the articles'. Just don't bother, nobody really reads them anyway. Of course, they no doubt help to get hits that can generate ad revenue to cover the costs of the site, so I do understand that and I could well be underestimating the value/necessity of that part.

Vital Swansea does have a couple of things going for it - it uses the exact same platform/forum software that this site does, so the posting experience would be very similar and it also, like the original Rivals site, has sister boards for a bunch of other teams that you can easily navigate to and post (older posters may remember the 'invasions' we often did of other Rivals boards that generated a few goof laughs and banter). It also doesn't have - as far as I'm aware - any 'baggage' associated to it as some other forums do. Saying that, the ads appear to be bad, when using a desktop anyway, and I have no idea what the owner/mod over there would think about a whole community of exiles setting up home on his forum and how that would go.
btw - I have no association to Vital, I'm not even a registered member there yet.
 
I'm only guessing here as I haven't talked to Phil about it, but I would think the real burden of a site like this is a combo of having to be the adult in the room in among a gaggle of squabbling kids (us) and even more, having to be the person ultimately responsible for the content when that content upsets...others....out there; content that might lead to threats of legal action or just constant demands to take stuff down/edit etc. Moderation can help with that, but you are ultimately responsible and I can absolutely see that being a pain in the arse, especially if you are in a place in your life where you have a lot going on anyway.

People talk about articles etc, but I've always thought this site doesn't really need any - and I use to write a lot of them back in the day. The forum is 99% of what this site it about, so I don't think anyone need worry about 'who'e going to write the articles'. Just don't bother, nobody really reads them anyway. Of course, they no doubt help to get hits that can generate ad revenue to cover the costs of the site, so I do understand that and I could well be underestimating the value/necessity of that part.

Vital Swansea does have a couple of things going for it - it uses the exact same platform/forum software that this site does, so the posting experience would be very similar and it also, like the original Rivals site, has sister boards for a bunch of other teams that you can easily navigate to and post (older posters may remember the 'invasions' we often did of other Rivals boards that generated a few goof laughs and banter). It also doesn't have - as far as I'm aware - any 'baggage' associated to it as some other forums do. Saying that, the ads appear to be bad, when using a desktop anyway, and I have no idea what the owner/mod over there would think about a whole community of exiles setting up home on his forum and how that would go.
btw - I have no association to Vital, I'm not even a registered member there yet.
Your first two paras nail it really. The first can be solved (mostly) through moderation and terms and conditions. The second is spot on. The articles on sites like this are gravy. It’s the forum that drives them.
 
I'm only guessing here as I haven't talked to Phil about it, but I would think the real burden of a site like this is a combo of having to be the adult in the room in among a gaggle of squabbling kids (us) and even more, having to be the person ultimately responsible for the content when that content upsets...others....out there; content that might lead to threats of legal action or just constant demands to take stuff down/edit etc. Moderation can help with that, but you are ultimately responsible and I can absolutely see that being a pain in the arse, especially if you are in a place in your life where you have a lot going on anyway.

People talk about articles etc, but I've always thought this site doesn't really need any - and I use to write a lot of them back in the day. The forum is 99% of what this site it about, so I don't think anyone need worry about 'who'e going to write the articles'. Just don't bother, nobody really reads them anyway. Of course, they no doubt help to get hits that can generate ad revenue to cover the costs of the site, so I do understand that and I could well be underestimating the value/necessity of that part.

Vital Swansea does have a couple of things going for it - it uses the exact same platform/forum software that this site does, so the posting experience would be very similar and it also, like the original Rivals site, has sister boards for a bunch of other teams that you can easily navigate to and post (older posters may remember the 'invasions' we often did of other Rivals boards that generated a few goof laughs and banter). It also doesn't have - as far as I'm aware - any 'baggage' associated to it as some other forums do. Saying that, the ads appear to be bad, when using a desktop anyway, and I have no idea what the owner/mod over there would think about a whole community of exiles setting up home on his forum and how that would go.
btw - I have no association to Vital, I'm not even a registered member there yet.
Going from his (Vital) postings on Twitter, that’ll be a forum with a big ego in charge. Fuck that.
 

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