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Theres plenty of ways to form an opinion. Ive explained it at great length.

I have, above. There is a lot of information out there to form an opinion of what we may think a transfer fee maybe. What do you do when we sign for undisclosed then? Give it no thought and ignore all rumours and reports?

So you pay zero attention to any transfer fee ever reported or suggested? This descending into silliness now, you may not like that say some signings haven't played well but are you really going to be this partisan and untrue to yourself to claim that you dont have an incling or care about any...

Again, I think I do have an idea generally what the deal was.

Not of them, of the transfer.

Not without no inside information, but its only natural for most to form an opinion on what the club has paid for players. As I said, this information isnt always knowingly released by clubs.

Well i dont actually blame the player unless they're blatantly not trying.

Doesn't mean they dont know. Players talk, managers talk, agents talk. Depends on the circumstances, there is sometimes benefits to clubs leaking this stuff. Maybe an owner wants to show ambition, maybe they want to demonstrate their shrewdness. Could be any number of reasons.

How do you know all news we hear about transfer fees are guesses then? Are you saying that agents, players themselves, managers, staff, clubs, governing bodies, other players, players families etc etc etc never knowingly or unknowingly leak this sort of information? Or is this another of your...

We do have clues though, plenty, for pretty much every transfer. You just pretend we don't. And if those clues turn to out to be completely false, well you couldn't disprove it anyway by your own logic.

How good is he? Anyone seen much of him?

That's just your comfort blanket blindspot. Fair play if this blissful ignorance works for you.

Of course it can, based on what we know, what other players of similar stature go for, what the state of the selling club is etc. Ultimately it will be a guess, but an informed one. From that and their performances I can form an opinion on the quality of the signing. This isnt rocket science...

I form an opinion based on common sense, logic and the tidbits of information we hear. As we've been over previously, by your logic you wouldn't ever class a signing as bad because you use your comfort blanket blind spot. Like you wont admit Bony 2nd time was a huge mistake because the club...

No doubt he did have a signing on fee. But using judgement I wouldnt say we paid him anything like some of the transfer fees we've paid this summer.

No, I can only comment on what I see on the pitch.

And he was a free transfer too

Yes it was, but he didn't have much of a pre-season and he did score some crackers (not enough, but he showed something).

There's never a conclusion until a player leaves or retires. So far some don't look up to it. They have time to turn it round but so far there aren't many signs they will (blind faith - new league, new language etc etc). Maybe they'll never get used to the speed or start liking Rossi's...

Oh yea its blindingly obvious Innoussa and Idah are going to propel us up the league next season.