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Yeah the P&S thing was obviously exaggerated but the losses are still incredible on the P&L every season and so many opportunities missed. Along with signing the likes of Pedersen on such large wages. Gross negligence of the highest order.

Isnt it miserable when we've sold all and sundry of any value that we are still worrying about finances especially P&S. Sold Piroe, Ntcham, Obafemi, Grimes, Downes, Wood in the last two years alone for over £30m and still in a mess. Talk about awful mismanagement. Absolute jokers.

There was premature jackelation in the East stand after the Middlesbrough game for sure :ROFLMAO:

I bet their supporters weren't calling the squad all things either

Never say never absolutely. Just some people, not you Clive, are more than content to award points to teams who haven't played yet and give us losses at the same time. When we've still achieved 7 points from 5 games when others have done far worse.

Ultimately if we get four points that means Derby need 11 from 7 along with Cardiff 10 from 7, Stoke the same to overtake us. They won't all achieve that.

I think the hysteria I was referring to is more people saying that we could be bottom three in the next three or four games. I have no doubt that it'll be close but I genuinely think we won't have a run as bad as Luke's 1 win in 10 for the run in.

I reckon in the break by what's coming out mate

I just can't see it mate. And quite frankly if we don't win 2 of our next 7 under the new manager then he shouldn't be here next season either

I agree to an extent. It's going to be a bit nervy over the next few games but when you look at the fixture list the other teams can't keep picking up wins they have over the last couple of weeks. Stoke in particular have a nightmare run in. They'd be ones to watch for the drop

I'm sorry the hysteria on here is ridiculous. So you're telling me that we will be in the relegation zone with 4 or 5 games to go with 45/47 points (providing we only lose 1 of the games against Plymouth and Derby) and that five teams will have picked up enough points to overtake us by then...

They don't score many But they're looking like prime Barca Sort it out

Wow. So so poor

Yup. That bounce we had was in effort. Don't ever think we'd go down under Sheehan if he was appointed but is that the extent of our ambitions?

Probably Matty would have been there as he's always behind the centre halves This is dire btw

So should our 8 be marking their 8 when we have the ball?

Eerily quiet here And second wank goal to concede in four days

With Ramsey out and if they keep Riza, after last night, I'd hesitate to say even that!

Mate wanted company as had free tickets and to be fair it was a hope that Luton might push them closer to the trap door. Which they did.

I was there tonight. Accompanied a friend who isn't a Cardiff fan but wow, the fans don't seem too bothered and seem to think they'll be fine. Massive sucker punch that late goal. Poor them...