Caerphilly

[Pegojack]

Stick that up your a*se, Farage

 

[Neath_Jack]

Superb.

Rejected the English nationalist party. Now for the rest of Cymru to do the same next year.

 

[Scotia]

Reform were second by a far bigger margin than I thought they would be.

Despite a better turnout I suspect Reform "supporters" didn't bother to actually vote.

 

[Pegojack]

Reform were second by a far bigger margin than I thought they would be.

Despite a better turnout I suspect Reform "supporters" didn't bother to actually vote.

Don't try and polish a turd. How do you know there weren't legions of anti fascists who didn't bother to vote? Reform expected to win and there were enough decent Welsh people around to tell the flag shaggers where to shove it. I'm proud of each and every one of them.

 

[jack_lord]

As my core beliefs are aligned with Labour I am disappointed for the party but it is far from surprising and also being involved with the party training over the last few months it has been waiting for the car crash (and not at 20 mph). I don't know if Labour will "wake up" from this as the power of social media can and will continue to mis-align facts. The only positive is that more people voted for a centre-left party than a right wing party but that won't play out across the Severn unless there is a big change in how the Libs manage themselves.
Social media gave us Brexit and now could turn GB ltd in to government of right wing fascists.

 

[jacabertawe]

Can't wait to see (not) the gurning visage of Deform's leader after the defeat of his racist limited company.

 

[exiledclaseboy]

Superb result which hopefully bodes well for the Senedd general election next spring. Reform threw EVERYTHING at this by election and their witless supporters (who don’t actually support them of course they just hate the other parties) were convinced it was in the bag. And they didn’t just lose. They were trounced into a distant second. Lovely stuff. Well done, Caerphilly.

 

[monmouth]

Superb.

Rejected the English nationalist party. Now for the rest of Cymru to do the same next year.

What lovely news first thing . I really feared the worst.

 

[Ronald Parp]

Well done the people of Caerphilly. Least bad choice.

 

[Scotia]

Don't try and polish a turd. How do you know there weren't legions of anti fascists who didn't bother to vote? Reform expected to win and there were enough decent Welsh people around to tell the flag shaggers where to shove it. I'm proud of each and every one of them.

I'm not. All the opinion polls had Reform and Plaid much closer than the actual result, most had Reform ahead. It's easier to say who you are going to vote for when asked or on social media than actually put an X in a box.

This has given me a bit of extra confidence that Reform won't form the next Welsh Government and hopefully by the next general election they will have imploded.

 

[Squarebear]

What lovely news first thing . I really feared the worst.

That's understandable. Sausages can hurt when thrown with force.

I can't escape the sense that the people of Caerphilly have simply voted to oppose something rather than for anything in particular. They've just backed the best option whatever that may bring.

 

[Smurph]

Great day for democracy and moral decency! Well done to the people of Caerphilly and Lindsay Whittle.

Caerphilly today, the Senedd in May

 

[Smurph]

As my core beliefs are aligned with Labour I am disappointed for the party but it is far from surprising and also being involved with the party training over the last few months it has been waiting for the car crash (and not at 20 mph). I don't know if Labour will "wake up" from this as the power of social media can and will continue to mis-align facts. The only positive is that more people voted for a centre-left party than a right wing party but that won't play out across the Severn unless there is a big change in how the Libs manage themselves.
Social media gave us Brexit and now could turn GB ltd in to government of right wing fascists.

The Labour party in Wales have taken the people for granted for far too long and this result is proof of that.

 

[JackSomething]

That's understandable. Sausages can hurt when thrown with force.

I can't escape the sense that the people of Caerphilly have simply voted to oppose something rather than for anything in particular. They've just backed the best option whatever that may bring.

To be honest, I get the sense that it's that way for a lot of voters. I haven't heard many Reform voters able to articulate why they're voting for them (outside of 'stop the boats' of course) other than they hate Labour and feel Reform were the most likely to beat them.

I do think that ideally people should vote for the party/candidate that most aligns with their belief, even if that party has no chance of winning, but that's not the system we have. If you believe the alternative is going to be absolutely terrible for the country, then you hold your nose and vote for the party most likely to keep them out. I'd even vote Conservative if the alternative was a Reform government as I think they'd do Trump-like irreparable damage wherever they get into power.

Ironically, the very unpopular Labour party in Wales have brought in a system for the next election that is closer to PR and allows people to vote for their chosen party/candidate with it less likely to be a 'wasted vote'.

 

[Smurph]

To be honest, I get the sense that it's that way for a lot of voters. I haven't heard many Reform voters able to articulate why they're voting for them (outside of 'stop the boats' of course) other than they hate Labour and feel Reform were the most likely to beat them.

I do think that ideally people should vote for the party/candidate that most aligns with their belief, even if that party has no chance of winning, but that's not the system we have. If you believe the alternative is going to be absolutely terrible for the country, then you hold your nose and vote for the party most likely to keep them out. I'd even vote Conservative if the alternative was a Reform government as I think they'd do Trump-like irreparable damage wherever they get into power.

Ironically, the very unpopular Labour party in Wales have brought in a system for the next election that is closer to PR and allows people to vote for their chosen party/candidate with it less likely to be a 'wasted vote'.

You'll struggle to find the majority of Reform voters string a sentence together let alone why they would vote for them apart their policy on erecting flags and painting roundabouts.

I'm pleased for Lindsay Whittle as he seemed like the only candidate who actually cared about Caerphilly.