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Itchysphincter

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Unheard of for the Swans, two transfer windows running.

Surely we have found a new way to do business as I can’t believe we’re going full tilt for promotion by throwing money at it, but it does look as though we are going for it.

The Garrick/Freeman thing looks like a swap and maybe something similar will happen stateside?
 
I think that with us being in a good position solvency wise coupled with the pandemic has helped us get players we would probably not have if covid hadnt have come along.
 
Itchysphincter said:
Unheard of for the Swans, two transfer windows running.

Surely we have found a new way to do business as I can’t believe we’re going full tilt for promotion by throwing money at it, but it does look as though we are going for it.

The Garrick/Freeman thing looks like a swap and maybe something similar will happen stateside?

The Scary thing is it looks like very smart business. :shock:

I'm like a jack in a box at the minute trying to keep my lid ( pun intented).
 
Balancing players out and in (loans) is relatively inexpensive although the wages we will be paying for those coming in will be higher yet still affordable.
The rampant and unwise (in retrospect) spending in our final 2 seasons in the PL appears to have been brought under control.
The management team have good contacts and Winter knows what he is doing,
Also - nonoe of the first team regulars has left
 
While I reserve judgment for now, the defensive acquisition from Swindon leaves me underwhelmed.
 
It's true that we've taken terrific steps to try and restabilise the club financially. We're probably in a better long term financial position than a lot of clubs around us which has given us some flexibility when it comes to player recruitment. We've also borrowed £10m which will either have to be repaid at some point, or converted into equity thus diluting the Trust's shareholding.

Nothing is free, or even cheap.
 
Dr. Winston said:
It's true that we've taken terrific steps to try and restabilise the club financially. We're probably in a better long term financial position than a lot of clubs around us which has given us some flexibility when it comes to player recruitment. We've also borrowed £10m which will either have to be repaid at some point, or converted into equity thus diluting the Trust's shareholding.

Nothing is free, or even cheap.

The loan is something to keep an eye on as you say.

I will give the owners a lot of credit for learning their lessons from relegation though (or appointing people who understood the lesson, which is essentially the same thing). The fact we're in the position to have 2 successive transfer windows full of strong acquisitions while only losing one important first team player is impressive given our financial struggles only a short time ago. The one player is Rodon, as Celina was clearly not wanted by Cooper and van der Hoorn's contract had expired.

I don't think I was in the full on 'they're going to bleed the club dry' crowd, but I certainly had my doubts about them as owners, so credit where it's due. We look like a well run club and seem to be surviving this pandemic far better than many others.
 
JackSomething said:
I will give the owners a lot of credit for learning their lessons from relegation though (or appointing people who understood the lesson, which is essentially the same thing).

No doubt. They absolutely had their fingers burned by trusting Jenkins and his ongoing ability to run the club carefully when it was someone elses' shareholding value at stake. It's a point I've made here and over on the other side (probably to the point of being boring about it) that the only way to run the club in the long term is on a self financing, sustainable basis. If that means selling high value players or turning some deals away then so be it.


JackSomething said:
I don't think I was in the full on 'they're going to bleed the club dry' crowd, but I certainly had my doubts about them as owners.

They did so many stupid things early doors that doubt about them as owners was natural and inevitable. To a degree it still is with the legal proceedings ongoing. I never understood the "asset stripping" stuff though. We spent an absolute fortune when we were in the Prem, and the sales made since dropping out of it were entirely expected given the financial commitments we had compared to the reduced income.

Just once I'd like one of the people certain that they'd had millions away to show me precisely where these spare millions were, cause I can't find them, and neither can people infinitely more qualified than me to do so.
 
Dr. Winston said:
JackSomething said:
I will give the owners a lot of credit for learning their lessons from relegation though (or appointing people who understood the lesson, which is essentially the same thing).

No doubt. They absolutely had their fingers burned by trusting Jenkins and his ongoing ability to run the club carefully when it was someone elses' shareholding value at stake. It's a point I've made here and over on the other side (probably to the point of being boring about it) that the only way to run the club in the long term is on a self financing, sustainable basis. If that means selling high value players or turning some deals away then so be it.


JackSomething said:
I don't think I was in the full on 'they're going to bleed the club dry' crowd, but I certainly had my doubts about them as owners.

They did so many stupid things early doors that doubt about them as owners was natural and inevitable. To a degree it still is with the legal proceedings ongoing. I never understood the "asset stripping" stuff though. We spent an absolute fortune when we were in the Prem, and the sales made since dropping out of it were entirely expected given the financial commitments we had compared to the reduced income.

Just once I'd like one of the people certain that they'd had millions away to show me precisely where these spare millions were, cause I can't find them, and neither can people infinitely more qualified than me to do so.

Agreed on all points. I'm at the point where I'm happy to admit they're doing a good job with the club, yet still support the Trust's action over the takeover.

We need to be careful, we're in danger of being those 'middle of the road' types that are apparently boring and stifle conversation... :lol:
 

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