Digital I.D

[SeaJack]

Cashless is very useful, but it’s not without its issues, so a backup to it is most definitely needed.

I remember the contactless systems going down in the local Sainsbury’s in Swansea with no sign of them being put back online, so the readies came to the rescue that day for all the shoppers at the tills.

Just imagine what would have happened if there wasn’t this secondary option to pay for the groceries?

It would have been utter carnage and panic in there.

As for the ID Card imposition, I do question at what cost it would be for the country to bear with one politician citing it being in the region of £11b with the operation costs coming in at around £1b a year to start with.

I also question what’s in store for us as citizens once it’s been introduced.

The Labour headline grabber is for it to prevent immigrants working illegally in this country, which is no bad thing.

The devil is in the detail, however, and it remains to be seen just how much surveillance and invasion of privacy it affords the Government.

I liken it to the purity of one of humankind’s greatest achievements when the Wright brothers first took to the skies successfully.

I get the feeling that it could well become bastardised in the future, as it was when the early planes were eventually armed with bombs and guns for the purposes of going to war.

Similarly it’s the same with the ID Card. It’s not what they do with it now, as the concept is wholly understandable with regard to immigrants working illegally.

Rather, it’s what they intend to add to it later once it’s been introduced into the public sphere is what I’m concerned about.

There will be some who’ll embrace it wholeheartedly as a utopian dream whilst there’ll be others who will decry it as a dystopian nightmare.

Either way, I myself am concerned about its introduction, as they haven’t really gone into enough detail about what’s involved, especially when you consider the societal change that it will herald.

Maybe rather than it being foisted on us, it would be better to have a referendum, with the for and against debates on either side arguing their cases as to why or why not it should or shouldn’t be introduced before it goes to a vote?

I myself would certainly feel more comfortable having the nuts and bolts of what is to be gained, and crucially, what is to be lost laid out before me, once we have been “tagged” effectively.

 

[waynekerr55]

How’d you feel about it?

It’s a big yes from me, then follow it up by announcing we’re going cashless.

I think there are many reasons why it's a misstep

1 - we are allegedly "skint" yet there's money for this, which, inevitably, end up being designed and messed up by the usual suspects

2 - why feed theories about control, do they not know what's being said

3 - it won't fix any of these immigration issues

 

[MajorR]

GDPR is a load of bollox your data is still shared, we’ve had numerous landline calls lately and lm ex directory so how are they getting my number, l asked one bloke who phoned where did you get my number from and he must have slipped up when he said from a data base or words to that effect, l started to question it and he hung up.

You’d be surprised how much information people allow to be shared without giving it a thought second thought. Tracking on phones, computers, cookies, Alexa and Siri listening in - and all this is done with consent. Next time you take out a contract for a mobile phone, or finance agreement look at the small print.

A couple of years ago I had an interesting conversation with a bailiff who was tracking someone down for unpaid debts. He told me that it was easier for him to access information on a person than it would police. He could get whatever he wanted very quickly via data bases holding info on contracts, phones, council tax, bank details etc etc whereas the police had to jump though all sorts of hoops to get the same info.

 

[Niigata Jack]

You’d be surprised how much information people allow to be shared without giving it a thought second thought. Tracking on phones, computers, cookies, Alexa and Siri listening in - and all this is done with consent. Next time you take out a contract for a mobile phone, or finance agreement look at the small print.

A couple of years ago I had an interesting conversation with a bailiff who was tracking someone down for unpaid debts. He told me that it was easier for him to access information on a person than it would police. He could get whatever he wanted very quickly via data bases holding info on contracts, phones, council tax, bank details etc etc whereas the police had to jump though all sorts of hoops to get the same info.

Its totally wrong and makes GDPR virtually pointless.

 

[monmouth]

I must admit, I haven't read into it, or thought about it, but my first thought is it just reconfirms Starmer is a political twat. We already have NINos, driving licence, passport and all this ill do is shovel money (which I thought we didn't have, as Wayne said above) to big tech to steal any last data they don't yet have. And why 'digital'? Does that mean everyone now needs to carry a smartphone so they can be tracked at will?

Want a big gesture that will work? Renationalise the water companies at a price that discounts all the billions they've siphoned out. Do something to protect our water security. I guess that's not simple seeing as they've been allowed to borrow so much to pay dividends and pump shit into the Wye, but better than "digidol ID'.