Passenger plane heading for London crashes after take-off in Ahmedabad, India

[Cooperman]

I can attest to this. I’ve been delayed in New York because the a/c wasn’t working.

You were informed that the duration of flight would be made without operable a/c? That’s very, very unusual and it comes with all sorts of additional regulations relating to passenger welfare and so on.

 

[CygnusX1]

You were informed that the duration of flight would be made without operable a/c? That’s very, very unusual and it comes with all sorts of additional regulations relating to passenger welfare and so on.

We were delayed by a couple of hours in Newark airport before we boarded, while they fixed the a/c as they wouldn’t fly without it.

 

[Dillwyn the Dog]

Bit of an odd one, isn’t it? The surviving passenger said he heard ‘a loud noise’ after takeoff, but I’m not sure if that’s true/relevant…that could be anything.

Seems that the pilots had control of the aircraft…a double engine failure would be very unlikely. The flaps thing is a distinct possibility, hard to tell if the plane has 5 degrees of flap on those grainy videos but the way the aircraft behaves, it does look like it rotates and just stalls almost instantly. I believe that the 787 has a takeoff config alarm if you take off without flaps (the 737 certainly has)…if that’s the case then I’m not sure they could takeoff without flaps. Possibly could have retracted the flaps instead of the gear? No idea how a pilot could make that mistake mind, but these things do happen with fatigue etc…

I’m just staggered that someone survived that fireball and hitting into a building…10 hours of fuel onboard plus contingency.

You know your stuff. Are you a b1/b2 engineer? Only asking as I work in the industry.
It could easily be pilot error - strange if true how they got it so wrong so badly. Then again having seen a video presentation of the PIA airbus disaster in Karachi some years back pilots can make some baffling decisions.

 

[MrSwerve]

You know your stuff. Are you a b1/b2 engineer? Only asking as I work in the industry.
It could easily be pilot error - strange if true how they got it so wrong so badly. Then again having seen a video presentation of the PIA airbus disaster in Karachi some years back pilots can make some baffling decisions.

Nah - I'm involved with the Engineering industry - but my interest in aircraft and aviation is a hobby.

 

[Fbreath]

I was aircraft tech in the RAF. All aircraft fly with faults but only faults that don’t impact on safety obviously.
Some faults can only be fixed when the aircraft is in the hanger having a major service etc. as they have to strip aircraft to get to something.

Aircraft are a bit like cars they have different levels of servicing dependant on miles flown.