Spag Bol v Chilli Con Carne

[MrSwerve]

It is mate, trust me.

Sounds nice but it ain’t bolognese. You’re serving suggestion is correct though.

Genuine question then, what is?

 

[Ronald Parp]

Sounds nice. It ain’t Bolognese though.

Why not?

Sure there are some variations, some use a pork/beef mince mixture, some use milk...but I think Ebo has the main ingredients there...

In my experience, Italians rarely have Bolognese sauce day-to-day, they tend to make something more similar to 'Neapolitan' sauce. (Source (lol): my mother is Italian)

Or marinara sauce.

Bolognese is very simple and doesn’t require wine or dairy. Slow cooking helps but it can be done quickly and a little bit of garlic and fresh basil brings out the flavour for serving. If it has anything like mushroom or cream, etc it can be argued that it’s lovely but it ain’t bolognese, it is another regional dish. Ebo is not far off.

 

[WxmJax]

Bryn, don't listen to Ebo, what does he know. Stick that red wine in it mate. Me, Gordon Ramsey and Gino D'acampo can't all be wrong. Well those two could be but not me.
Only just found out the family were winding me up with the "winey" taste last night. There'll be repercussions I tell 'ya.

 

[Cooperman]

Pre pandemic times saw me spend much of the working calendar in Bologna so I've done this conversation hundreds of times over.

Ebo is closest with his recipe, at least in terms of the true origins. The soffritto of onion, celery and carrots, into which the beef is added along with a splash of white wine (red not used in the original recipe) and a small volume of tomato. The only ingredient he did not mention is a splash of cream. Of curse, there have been umpteen regional and international variations since, all of which come under the generic umbrella of spag bol, some of which don't use cream, some of which swap white plonk for red.

 

[Londonlisa2001]

Sounds nice. It ain’t Bolognese though.

Why not?

Sure there are some variations, some use a pork/beef mince mixture, some use milk...but I think Ebo has the main ingredients there...

In my experience, Italians rarely have Bolognese sauce day-to-day, they tend to make something more similar to 'Neapolitan' sauce. (Source (lol): my mother is Italian)

Adding some pork mince to the beef mince makes all the difference for both spag bol and a chilli. And fennel seeds. Don’t care if it’s not authentic, the Italians do a ragu anyway often with rabbit or sausage meat.

 

[MrSwerve]

Why not?

Sure there are some variations, some use a pork/beef mince mixture, some use milk...but I think Ebo has the main ingredients there...

In my experience, Italians rarely have Bolognese sauce day-to-day, they tend to make something more similar to 'Neapolitan' sauce. (Source (lol): my mother is Italian)

Adding some pork mince to the beef mince makes all the difference for both spag bol and a chilli. And fennel seeds. Don’t care if it’s not authentic, the Italians do a ragu anyway often with rabbit or sausage meat.

Pork mince generally gives much more flavour, in my opinion. Actually, my mother/grand mother use pork mince almost exclusively, without using beef mince at all. Either that or some fatty belly pork...the flavours are much richer.

 

[Ebo]

Sounds nice. It ain’t Bolognese though.

Why not?

Sure there are some variations, some use a pork/beef mince mixture, some use milk...but I think Ebo has the main ingredients there...

In my experience, Italians rarely have Bolognese sauce day-to-day, they tend to make something more similar to 'Neapolitan' sauce. (Source (lol): my mother is Italian)

They tend to make what they call a 'Sunday Sauce' on erm.. a Sunday. Takes hours.

 

[Ebo]

Bryn, don't listen to Ebo, what does he know. Stick that red wine in it mate. Me, Gordon Ramsey and Gino D'acampo can't all be wrong. Well those two could be but not me.
Only just found out the family were winding me up with the "winey" taste last night. There'll be repercussions I tell 'ya.

Gordon Ramsay puts olive oil in his pasta water. What a clunge!

 

[WxmJax]

Gordon Ramsay puts olive oil in his pasta water. What a clunge!

He's a clunge full stop