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British Steel - Nationalisation

I don't know what you finding funny l haven't got the time or the freedom you got to go hunting through pages and pages of the online crap that you have, I've heard the name, but not taken any interest cause I'm not interested in some random pillock, just looked him up aka Tommy Robinson and I'm still not interested.
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I don't know who Yaxley Lennon is, but what I do know is that most are men of fighting age, seen it on the news and been told by people who'd know first hand.
I'm not saying there aren't any, but it's made out as some sort of invasion when it's far from it.

I have a hotel housing asylum seekers near me in Wymondeley so I'm not saying it from a hidden enclave
 
That doesn't stack up the "fighting age" claim though.

So much for taking back control in 2016...
Whatever, but these boats need stopping, the Country be bankrupt the way it's going and its the Taxpayer who'll be picking up the bill, especially with that cow Reeves and her boss the liar and no one can say that he and here hasn't lied, I detest the tories and this lot are catching them up quickly, can't stand any of them, snakes the lot of them. The liar is spending money like water giving our money away.

I couldn't care less what anyone else thinks either.
 
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700 more migrants (record for this year so far!) have arrived today, add that to the 656 that arrived on Saturday! That is a lot of hotel spaces.

Sometime in the near future the U.K will have completely run out of hotel spaces. I guess the next government plan will then be to build houses for them. That will create an even greater incentive to entice even more to come after that.

The additional worry is the illegal immigrant (Swansea judge's words) "epidemic" of crime. The U.K has become a safe haven and operational base for organised crime gangs, wanted fugitives and criminals.

Someone can commit murder overseas, go on the run, pay £3000 - £5,000 to a people smuggler, throw away I.D and create a new false I.D to start a new life paid for by British taxpayers. It is a national security risk and absolute disgrace. According to a poll 68% now think Britain is broken. The headlines in todays Sun newspaper says it all.

 
On the subject of blast furnaces i.e. Labour peer Lord West and commander in chief was absolute correct about the strategic importance for a countries own defence.
The Sun newspaper 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 a step down from YouTube videos and tweets from DarrenOfPlymouth.
But a major step up from your imaginary conversation with a policeman whom had spent FORTY YEARS in the flying squad. You complete and utter WALT!!!
 
Whatever, but these boats need stopping, the Country be bankrupt the way it's going and its the Taxpayer who'll be picking up the bill, especially with that cow Reeves and her boss the liar and no one can say that he and here hasn't lied, I detest the tories and this lot are catching them up quickly, can't stand any of them, snakes the lot of them. The liar is spending money like water giving our money away.

I couldn't care less what anyone else thinks either.

Well said pal.
I’m not sure what the answer is but immigration does need addressing.
 
Immigration isn't a problem. Brexiteers told us our borders would be secured by voting leave 9 years ago.
They couldn't possibly have been lying through their teeth, surely?
 
Well said pal.
I’m not sure what the answer is but immigration does need addressing.
I don’t think anyone has said it doesn’t. What this thread does illustrate is how easy it is to dupe and radicalise ordinary, decent people and get them to convince themselves and others that their and the country’s problems are all solely and complete the fault of immigration and immigrants. There are examples throughout history of what this kind of propaganda can lead to and it’s very troubling. Facts become expendable and social media and WhatsApp group messages become received wisdom. I must wish people wouldn’t believe everything they read and read only everything they already believe.
 
I don’t think anyone has said it doesn’t. What this thread does illustrate is how easy it is to dupe and radicalise ordinary, decent people and get them to convince themselves and others that their and the country’s problems are all solely and complete the fault of immigration and immigrants. There are examples throughout history of what this kind of propaganda can lead to and it’s very troubling. Facts become expendable and social media and WhatsApp group messages become received wisdom. I must wish people wouldn’t believe everything they read and read only everything they already believe.
On the flip side of that people can bury their heads in the sand and carry on thinking everything is ok and the constant boats crossing the channel on daily basis containing God knows who is ok, the nasty right wing keep picking on them.
 
On the flip side of that people can bury their heads in the sand and carry on thinking everything is ok and the constant boats crossing the channel on daily basis containing God knows who is ok.
That would only be the flip side if anyone was saying that everything is ok and that the crossing of boats is ok. But they’re not, which makes it a spurious argument and a nice illustration of the point I was making. There are two extremes here:

1 - were being invaded, this country is on its knees due to the small boats

2 - everything is fine, let the boats keep coming it’s not a problem.

I’ve seen loads saying 1, hardly anyone if anyone al all saying 2.
 
That would only be the flip side if anyone was saying that everything is ok and that the crossing of boats is ok. But they’re not, which makes it a spurious argument and a nice illustration of the point I was making. There are two extremes here:

1 - were being invaded, this country is on its knees due to the small boats

2 - everything is fine, let the boats keep coming it’s not a problem.

I’ve seen loads saying 1, hardly anyone if anyone al all saying 2.
You mentioned that people are being radicalised. People aren't being they radicalised they've had enough.

This country is on its knees and the influx of people literally washing up on our shores every day has got to breaking point.

The liberal left were up in arms arms when the Rwanda scheme put in place by the previous government. The plan started to work though before Starmer ripped it up and offered zero as a replacement to the issue.

If these people on boats were genuine asylum seekers why don't they stay in the first safe country they reach or failing that spend the money on a flight to this country and seek asylum that way?

It would be hell of a lot safe and cheaper for them.
 

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