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Sky Deal Has Negative Impact On Fans As Stoke City, Southampton And Wrexham Moved

Fully agree.

It seems year on year that fans who attend games are way down the list when this happens.

There is the plus side of people who can't attend games for whatever reason, but once lost it's hard to get fans back.

Over the last couple of years for various reasons, including poor football I've seen less live games for as long as I can remember.

This season could have been a change and a chance to attend. Now with already the live games announced and of course the mid-week games on the red button I can if I want watch close to 20 games legally on Sky.

Of those games there would be some that the 3 of us would try and match our diaries and travel.

The question is cost and time wise there will be times that the effort to do so might not be worth it.

Yes we can attend other games but with more 'stupid' times involved it makes it worse to plan.

Simple thing is that business comes first and fans become just paying customers.
 
This affects us exiles too. I live in the south, and the only away games that I can get to with any 'ease' (think of them as my version of a home game) are the London-based clubs. So many of these have been pushed to midweek, largely for TV, is really frustrating. a 1945 kick off means a very late night, and realistically means I can't take my sons. Pain in the ass. Bring back Saturday afternoon football.
 
The impact on grassroots is what gets me,when kids are playing football themselves on a Saturday morning even a 12:30 home game can have an impact if you live a certain amount of miles outside Swansea when kids may not be getting in the house until 11:30 to shower and change.
I’m sure Clivey above will understand this big time.
 
The impact on grassroots is what gets me,when kids are playing football themselves on a Saturday morning even a 12:30 home game can have an impact if you live a certain amount of miles outside Swansea when kids may not be getting in the house until 11:30 to shower and change.
I’m sure Clivey above will understand this big time.

That and night games with younger children as jrthejack has posted can maybe lose the next generation of fans.

Maybe that sounds extreme but the total match day cost with travel etc, will tip the balance for many when sitting watching on TV becomes the norm
 
That and night games with younger children as jrthejack has posted can maybe lose the next generation of fans.

Maybe that sounds extreme but the total match day cost with travel etc, will tip the balance for many when sitting watching on TV becomes the norm

It’s not extreme it’s spot on.
 
With evening games and then lunch games clashing with my boys' football, the 7 hour return journey to Pompey on NYD was the easiest game for me to get to last season! lol. Fucking absurd.
 
The impact on grassroots is what gets me,when kids are playing football themselves on a Saturday morning even a 12:30 home game can have an impact if you live a certain amount of miles outside Swansea when kids may not be getting in the house until 11:30 to shower and change.
I’m sure Clivey above will understand this big time.
It has a huge impact. When they switch a game to a Saturday I make a decision between golf and football as I cant do both. More often than not I choose the golf which is related a little to what Clive said earlier - the footbal has been dull and when you lose the habit of choosing football its hard to get back

I look at the early league fixtures

Sheffield United - cant make it due to personal committments that day
Watford - 12.30, likely to choose golf
Hull - likely to attend
Millwall - 12.30, again likely to choose golf
Leicester - should be OK
QPR - on holiday
Norwich - on holiday
Ipswich - should be OK
Derby - midweek, depends on work
Oxford - should be OK
Portsmouth - midweek, depends on work
Wrexham - Friday night, should be OK but family commitments may dictate

12 home games before the New Year and only three I can say for certainty I will attend (last season I would have aso binned at least one of these due to us being largely dull to watch for the Williams part of the season for certain)
 
I'll raise my head above the parapet here and state that I much prefer a 12:30 KO on a Saturday, especially as Winter sets in.

A half twelve kick off means that the game is done and dusted by half two, which gives people a couple of hours of daylight left to do other stuff if they wish. Or longer in the pub. 3pm kickoffs are a holdover from the days where people did half a day in the factory on a Saturday morning.

And more Friday night games are never a bad thing.
 
I'll raise my head above the parapet here and state that I much prefer a 12:30 KO on a Saturday, especially as Winter sets in.

A half twelve kick off means that the game is done and dusted by half two, which gives people a couple of hours of daylight left to do other stuff if they wish. Or longer in the pub. 3pm kickoffs are a holdover from the days where people did half a day in the factory on a Saturday morning.

And more Friday night games are never a bad thing.
Friday night games are the worse of all if you’re traveling. Traffic is dire.
 
I'll raise my head above the parapet here and state that I much prefer a 12:30 KO on a Saturday, especially as Winter sets in.

A half twelve kick off means that the game is done and dusted by half two, which gives people a couple of hours of daylight left to do other stuff if they wish. Or longer in the pub. 3pm kickoffs are a holdover from the days where people did half a day in the factory on a Saturday morning.

And more Friday night games are never a bad thing.
Daylight and pubs are available before three mind.
 

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