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[rockinj]

If your answer to everything is fewer migrants, cutting foreign aid etc then if that’s just legitimate concerns then I’m a bluebird. It’s invariably people who obsess over this who are simply racists. I’m tired of this pussy footing around. I have some small respect for the open racists because they admit it.

I’m not for a free for all but migration is small down the list of priorities for me because I don’t care about the colour of someone’s skin. Most of the people that annoy me in this Country are white.

 

[Darran]

If your answer to everything is fewer migrants, cutting foreign aid etc then if that’s just legitimate concerns then I’m a bluebird. It’s invariably people who obsess over this who are simply racists. I’m tired of this pussy footing around. I have some small respect for the open racists because they admit it.

I’m not for a free for all but migration is small down the list of priorities for me because I don’t care about the colour of someone’s skin. Most of the people that annoy me in this Country are white.

Yeah that’ll be it every white person that has concerns about immigration is a racist.
Fucking moron.

 

[Cooperman]

If your answer to everything is fewer migrants, cutting foreign aid etc then if that’s just legitimate concerns then I’m a bluebird. It’s invariably people who obsess over this who are simply racists. I’m tired of this pussy footing around. I have some small respect for the open racists because they admit it.

I’m not for a free for all but migration is small down the list of priorities for me because I don’t care about the colour of someone’s skin. Most of the people that annoy me in this Country are white.

What a load of bollocks.

 

[rockinj]

Go then change my view. What in what I’ve said is wrong.

The two main points:

- immigration is of lower priority than most other issues and people who obsess are simply prejudiced

Why is this wrong?

- most of the people who annoy me are white

Why is this wrong?


Go on change my mind.

 

[Darran]

What a load of bollocks.

Racist.

 

[Scotia]

Go then change my view. What in what I’ve said is wrong.

The two main points:

- immigration is of lower priority than most other issues and people who obsess are simply prejudiced

Why is this wrong?

- most of the people who annoy me are white

Why is this wrong?


Go on change my mind.

In the main I agree, but it depends how far down the list of priorities immigration falls and what is above it?

 

[rockinj]

In the main I agree, but it depends how far down the list of priorities immigration falls and what is above it?

Taking a step back for a minute. My view is very much there should be ZERO boats coming over the channel.

This should have been gripped a long time ago by the tories who are shamefully exploiting the issue with their friends from reform for political reasons.

As I mentioned earlier in thread you’ll be talking about a tiny fraction of the public that would be comfortable with allowing all these people in on boats.

But as a civilised Country we have a duty to take some people in as refuge. Again as I mentioned the Afghans who helped British troops for example.

We are drip drip moving towards a returns deal that will mean every one landing in UK will be returned to France similar to the Dublin agreement which was existed while we were in the EU! No boats before 2016..

So it is a big issue and it needs tackling. But we won’t be able to tackle it unless we work across border and recognise we have to play our part and that means taking some people in who have LEGAL right to remain.

Now if you don’t agree with that I think you’re prejudiced and that’s my central point. Go back decades this is a solid actually centre right position. The Country has moved so far on this issue because of mass propaganda and misinformation.

Now to finally answer your question:

Economy
Education
Foreign affairs
Health

Immigration is an element within all of this and it’s both positive and negative.

But is this the reason for the productivity issues we’re having the declining birth rate and older population?

Also foreign wars. Why do people migrate?

There are many many people who are concerned by levels of immigration (including myself) but there is a growing section of society that fixate and drift into casual racist tropes. They don’t like getting called out on it but we all know them. The same people who then say it’s not racist to talk about it. Ffs that’s all you ever bloody do!!!

 

[Cooperman]

Go then change my view. What in what I’ve said is wrong.

The two main points:

- immigration is of lower priority than most other issues and people who obsess are simply prejudiced

Why is this wrong?

- most of the people who annoy me are white

Why is this wrong?


Go on change my mind.

Other than people close to you, you have no idea about the political motivations of the British public. There are countless hard working UK families who live close to the poverty line, and who are aggrieved at how consecutive governments have poured billions into immigration related topics, before looking after the welfare of UK citizens. Whether this is a right or wrong view is not up for debate, but it certainly does not make these families racist.

Do you really have respect for racists? You might want to rethink that statement.

The last comment about white people annoying you was just silly. The UK population is greater than 80% white and large pockets of non-white are centered around West Yorkshire, Leicester, Luton, South London. Therefore unless you spend large amounts of time in these places then it's hardly surprising that white folk annoy you more than any other race.

 

[Neath_Jack]

Other than people close to you, you have no idea about the political motivations of the British public. There are countless hard working UK families who live close to the poverty line, and who are aggrieved at how consecutive governments have poured billions into immigration related topics, before looking after the welfare of UK citizens. Whether this is a right or wrong view is not up for debate, but it certainly does not make these families racist.

Do you really have respect for racists? You might want to rethink that statement.

The last comment about white people annoying you was just silly. The UK population is greater than 80% white and large pockets of non-white are centered around West Yorkshire, Leicester, Luton, South London. Therefore unless you spend large amounts of time in these places then it's hardly surprising that white folk annoy you more than any other race.

Classic example of

 

[Wing_Stand_Wood]

https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/uk-population/

You racist b*****d’s worrying about an astronomical 10 MILLION population increase currently equivalent to the size of approx FORTY Swansea populations (and rising!) since Blair came into power.

You racist b*****ds worrying about a UK population projected to grow by a further 4.9 million (7.3%) over 10 years between mid-2022 and mid-2032, according to ONS.

And you racist b*****ds worrying about spending 24+ hours in A+E and being able to access a G.P and dentist appointment etc.

And (white supremacist racist b*****ds? LOL) Alp Mehmet and that high ranking G.P association representative aghast at the dire future catastrophic consequences due to the absolute insanity of insane numbers, so substantial? That it’s IMPOSSIBLE for NHS/public services to ever cope and keep up with.

How long does it take for someone to progress from junior doctor, to registrar, to experienced surgeon hey?

But don’t worry folks It’ll be all o.k, cos Labour (aided and abetted by the magical money tree) plans to add a further 2,500,000 net sum to the U.K population during its tenure, and anyhow that aside? What (as reported and predicted!) if there is a severe water shortage, because MORE millions use MORE water that there won’t be enough of, because not enough reservoirs are being planned for future demand anyhow.

You racist b*****ds queuing at the end of your streets to get your severely limited daily water requirement!

And then there is a local G.P surgery, I guess extremely worried about a further population increase that even ‘Labour's magic money tree’ will be unable to keep up with?

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/thousands-new-homes-swansea-would-14250057

 

[Cooperman]

Classic example of

How does this relate to what I have said to rockinj?

 

[Darran]

Don’t skirt around the edges, give u

Classic example of

Do you think immigration is too high?

 

[JackSomething]

Without looking it up, I'd guess the massively increasing population of this country is more down to the ever increasing average lifespan and those already here breeding like rabbits. Immigrants probably make up a tiny proportion of this but are scapegoated as usual, as they are when it comes to benefits (Refugees make up 1.5% of benefits claimants).

 

[Neath_Jack]

How does this relate to what I have said to rockinj?

As I said it’s a perfect example of that illustration. Your first paragraph.

 

[Neath_Jack]

Do you think immigration is too high?

I don’t think but know that uncontrolled immigration is disastrous.

That’ll be all you’ll get from me because you already know what I and everybody else thinks anyway, because you keep telling us you do.