Timekeeping

[Frankie Burrows Cap]

Yet another example in the Brentford v Liverpool game why football should join every other team sport at the top level and have the ‘actual time’ shown in the stadium.

The ref may well have been correct that an extra 90 seconds was required, but how it can be at the whim of one man with no transparency I’ll never know!

 

[Deleted member 1454]

The flipside to that argument is that all the teams know it's a "minimum of" X amount of minutes added on, so they should play to the whistle and not drift off.

 

[Frankie Burrows Cap]

The flipside to that argument is that all the teams know it's a "minimum of" X amount of minutes added on, so they should play to the whistle and not drift off.

I get that and obviously there never used to be a board held up.

I just think that when every other sport in the world can inform players, managers and supporters of the time remaining then there’s no excuse for football.

There’ll still be arguments about when and for how long it’s stopped for (assuming it’s never changed to 60 mins of ball in play) but if you go down the route of ‘time on/time off’ communication between the ref and timekeeper like in rugby, with the clock in the stadium, then at least the officials can never be accused of bias and it’s transparent for all.

 

[Smurph]

I get that and obviously there never used to be a board held up.

I just think that when every other sport in the world can inform players, managers and supporters of the time remaining then there’s no excuse for football.

There’ll still be arguments about when and for how long it’s stopped for (assuming it’s never changed to 60 mins of ball in play) but if you go down the route of ‘time on/time off’ communication between the ref and timekeeper like in rugby, with the clock in the stadium, then at least the officials can never be accused of bias and it’s transparent for all.

One of the challenges is the additional time added to the additional time.

 

[Frankie Burrows Cap]

One of the challenges is the additional time added to the additional time.

Yep, easily fixed if there’s somebody pressing stop on the stadium clock whenever the ref wants to stop the clock like they do in all other sports.

 

[Smurph]

Yep, easily fixed if there’s somebody pressing stop on the stadium clock whenever the ref wants to stop the clock like they do in all other sports.

Not sure what the fuss is, the officials have the time that needs to be played and the managers on the sideline know. Even the commentators in the Brentford, Liverpool game knew there was an extra 3 minutes added to the additional time.

 

[Frankie Burrows Cap]

Not sure what the fuss is, the officials have the time that needs to be played and the managers on the sideline know. Even the commentators in the Brentford, Liverpool game knew there was an extra 3 minutes added to the additional time.

The commentators know, because they’re listening to the refs being miced up. The managers only know if they pester the 4th official.

It’s just too open to interpretation at the minute IMO. There’s no consistency in terms of when they stop and re start the clock. If it was transparent then there’d be more accountability and you’d end up with more consistency from week to week.

 

[Smurph]

The commentators know, because they’re listening to the refs being miced up. The managers only know if they pester the 4th official.

It’s just too open to interpretation at the minute IMO. There’s no consistency in terms of when they stop and re start the clock. If it was transparent then there’d be more accountability and you’d end up with more consistency from week to week.

Everyone involved knows how much time there is to play. The only people who don't at those in the stands.

Not sure it's really worth getting worked up about. There are bigger things the officials need to fix before their time keeping.

 

[K23]

In this day and age, surely the tech exists to have all relevant clocks/watches wirelessly synchronised so that everyone who needs to know how much time has been played or is left, does know and there's no argument.

 

[Smurph]

In this day and age, surely the tech exists to have all relevant clocks/watches wirelessly synchronised so that everyone who needs to know how much time has been played or is left, does know and there's no argument.

I'm pretty sure they already do.

 

[K23]

I'm pretty sure they already do.

So where is the problem?

 

[exiledclaseboy]

Watching the game it felt like the ref wanted to give Liverpool every chance to equalise and stretched it as far as he could. That said, VAR gave Brentford a nonsense penalty so it’s probably all even. And Brentford were brilliant and deserved their win.

 

[Smurph]

So where is the problem?

There isn't.

 

[Frankie Burrows Cap]

So where is the problem?

The lack of transparency is my issue.

If this idea of a time limit for throw ins, goal kicks and corners comes in, it seems strange to me that the ref on the pitch is the one in charge of timekeeping/policing this when (as Smurph says) they’ve got far more important things to be focussing on.

 

[Smurph]

The lack of transparency is my issue.

If this idea of a time limit for throw ins, goal kicks and corners comes in, it seems strange to me that the ref on the pitch is the one in charge of timekeeping/policing this when (as Smurph says) they’ve got far more important things to be focussing on.

Theres is actually a reason why it's called a minimum.