The 'Vitor Matos' Managerial Thread

[peter]

sorry but not buy and things not tghings

 

[Copamundial]

Hope Amos is a better coach than Landlord..ruined the Woolpack up in Emmerdale.

 

[Copamundial]

Ten pager on a manager we’re……you can guess the rest

 

[Ringwood]

Hillberg is a smoggy !

 

[cmajack]

you could be correct buy do not forget thr f f p rules restrict what we can and cannot do that in itself puts restrains on tghings

Not really on about the financial side of it as such. Rumours are that Hellberg was their first choice manager after sacking Williams, and if that was the case then they should have tried to secure his services then. We also waited until 3 other clubs, all potentially with much more clout than us, had sacked their managers so we would be competing against them for candidates. You don't have to be the biggest or best club around to succeed, sometimes you just have to be the smartest, as we were years ago.

 

[cmajack]

Hillberg is a smoggy !

Hope he has a shit time up there. Scumbag.

 

[tardylum]

Last season doesn't really come in to for me, they had the biggest budget in that league and met expectations.

What do you mean by the state of us and our players? We've underachieved massively this season, the playing squad is good enough to compete at the higher end of the league.

Of the pitch we're more organised than we've been for the best part of a decade.

Take away from the fact he's had a huge budget to play with at Brum, he comes across as bit of dick.

He has managed 77 games and 60 of them were last season so disregarding them entirely makes it hard to assess any manager by that logic.

If he had taken us over when he was linked, the squad was in a worse place. I will wait to see if we have improved as much as you suggest. Off field we have changed a lot, but I am yet to be sure how organised that makes us. We are not worse off but maybe only marginally better.

 

[Swans Jack]

Update emerges in Swansea City's move to appoint Vitor Matos - 'irresistible' claim made

Swansea City's potential new boss is enthralled by the opportunity at hand

footballleagueworld.co.uk

I just read this. What have they been smoking? Did they watch his last match he played for us? I like the guy but he need to go a long way until he is Premier League quality.

 

[MrSwerve]

A guy who’s had 12 games or whatever it is, in management, for a second division Portuguese side, isn’t going to have a £1m release clause, surely.

 

[Swans Jack]

A guy who’s had 12 games or whatever it is, in management, for a second division Portuguese side, isn’t going to have a £1m release clause, surely.

Indy Reporting he is on average 80k a year at his Club. He will get a lot more with us but Sheehan was on around 300k a year. Not sure where these figures come from but not 1m release. Average championship manager is on 800k.

 

[Smurph]

He has managed 77 games and 60 of them were last season so disregarding them entirely makes it hard to assess any manager by that logic.

If he had taken us over when he was linked, the squad was in a worse place. I will wait to see if we have improved as much as you suggest. Off field we have changed a lot, but I am yet to be sure how organised that makes us. We are not worse off but maybe only marginally better.

Does it though? Birmingham were by far the biggest and strongest team in that disiviosn. I'm pretty surety majority of us on here could have gained promotion from League One with that squad and resource.

Our squad is far more balanced with competition for places throughout apart from goal keeper and right back. I have a feeling if I told you water was wet you'd argue it wasn't.

 

[tardylum]

Does it though? Birmingham were by far the biggest and strongest team in that disiviosn. I'm pretty surety majority of us on here could have gained promotion from League One with that squad and resource.

Our squad is far more balanced with competition for places throughout apart from goal keeper and right back. I have a feeling if I told you water was wet you'd argue it wasn't.

Lots of managers fail with the biggest resources and best players. It is still an achievement to take a side just relegated and turn them instantly into a juggernaut. That does not guarantee that he is a perfect coach who deserves years of grace based on that achievement, but it is not nothing. Especially when it is the only job he has done so far and the only thing he can be judged on.

I think our squad is more balanced with better competition for places, especially than how it finished last season. As for your last sentence, even when I am agreeing with you or acknowledging the credibility in your points, you seem to get aggravated. This is a place to have discussions and we are having one.

 

[Smurph]

Lots of managers fail with the biggest resources and best players. It is still an achievement to take a side just relegated and turn them instantly into a juggernaut. That does not guarantee that he is a perfect coach who deserves years of grace based on that achievement, but it is not nothing. Especially when it is the only job he has done so far and the only thing he can be judged on.

I think our squad is more balanced with better competition for places, especially than how it finished last season. As for your last sentence, even when I am agreeing with you or acknowledging the credibility in your points, you seem to get aggravated. This is a place to have discussions and we are having one.

I'm not aggravated in the slightest and yes I'm fully aware this place is for discussion. If you were a little less condescending with some of your posts it could possibly help.

 

[ARQS]

A guy who’s had 12 games or whatever it is, in management, for a second division Portuguese side, isn’t going to have a £1m release clause, surely.

They're a fairly big club aren't they?

Although if he's on 80k a year as someone has suggested it would be weird if the buy out was 12.5 years wages!!

 

[MrSwerve]

They're a fairly big club aren't they?

Although if he's on 80k a year as someone has suggested it would be weird if the buy out was 12.5 years wages!!

Are they really though? I’ve never heard of them (granted they’ve probably not heard much of us either), 10k stadium, spent a long time in the Portuguese PL which is fairly poor.