Summer Investment

[magicdaps10]

part of the 115 charges that they're obviously getting away with

Yes, I would suspect. That in itself puts a stop to others doing it despite them continually getting away with it themselves.

 

[jack_lord]

why is it ridiculous for our club to have an exaggerated sponsorship deal when, in reality, that is exactly what Wrexham have been having?

 

[magicdaps10]

why is it ridiculous for our club to have an exaggerated sponsorship deal when, in reality, that is exactly what Wrexham have been having?

I get what you are suggesting but the reality is totally different. Wrexham are a unique example, one that we are trying to emulate regards bringing money into the club.
The talk was put out there, it seems that realistically we won't be hitting sponsorship or income heights of Wrexham anytime soon.
I think fans need to take what is said or wrote and not get to expectant, so it seems!

Or there again....the sponsorship is going to be more than what some are thinking.

 

[Dr. Winston]

why is it ridiculous for our club to have an exaggerated sponsorship deal when, in reality, that is exactly what Wrexham have been having?

Because the sponsors aren't the owners.

If Ryan Reynolds had paid £20m to advertise the latest Deadpool movie on their shirt front then that would be a conflict and probably investigated by the league. United Airlines jumping on the bandwagon to make use of the exposure is not.

They've played the game and exploited the opportunities provided by the explosion of interest as a result of the takeover well in fairness to them.

 

[jack_lord]

Because the sponsors aren't the owners.

If Ryan Reynolds had paid £20m to advertise the latest Deadpool movie on their shirt front then that would be a conflict and probably investigated by the league. United Airlines jumping on the bandwagon to make use of the exposure is not.

They've played the game and exploited the opportunities provided by the explosion of interest as a result of the takeover well in fairness to them.

That is a good answer.
So if the "sponsorship" is from outside the ownership group it is fine. At the same time the purported "sponsorship" deal can not be Death Row because it is a conflict of interest?

 

[Londonlisa2001]

You can't blame people for what was said in that podcast.

Bringing in sponsorship which is the biggest the club has had, more than was seen in the premiership days.
It's like saying that you have won the lottery, bigging it up and come the time then saying you won £100.
If the sponsorship is modest then deliver it that way.

That's my look on it anyway. If the sponsorship is the highest in our history then it's certainly a good/positive thing and I will certainly applaud it.
I was quite open minded when I heard the interview but I expected alot of people to have got excited about it and I totally understand why.......and I would be a bit arrogant to say that it's on them.

In regards to the sponsorship itself. I don't know anything about it but to secure one that is the biggest in its history is excellent given our recent history as a premier league club. If we can secure premiership football in X amount of years with Snoop,Modric and even 1 or 2 others on board then that would certainly mean that sponsorship record would be broken again in time.

We had very poor sponsorship income when we were in the premier league compared to others.

 

[Londonlisa2001]

I'm sure there's ways around it tho. Just look at Man City and Etihad.

Etihad and Man City are both effectively owned by the State of UAE.

Etihad's latest sponsorship deal with Man City is thought to be in the region of £1 billion... way over market value.

They changed the rules as a result of the Etihad sponsorship.

Any income from a connected party will be valued at market value for PSR purposes.

 

[Londonlisa2001]

why is it ridiculous for our club to have an exaggerated sponsorship deal when, in reality, that is exactly what Wrexham have been having?

Wrexham’s exposure and marketing potential is far greater than ours at the moment.

They are the most followed club in the football league internationally. Most overseas subscriptions to their games, an audience of about 5 million each episode of Welcome to Wrexham, biggest shirt sales internationally (outside the premier league).

Plus brands are desperate to be involved because of Reynolds in particular.

We will obviously start to see increases due to celebrity ownership links but we are a way away at the moment.

 

[Dr. Winston]

So if the "sponsorship" is from outside the ownership group it is fine. At the same time the purported "sponsorship" deal can not be Death Row because it is a conflict of interest?

A deal from outside the ownership group is more likely to be OK. As mentioned elsewhere, these rules were brought in to stop the likes of Etihad taking the mickey out of FFP rules and inflating Man Citys transfer funds by claiming a £200m a year sponsorship deal.

We could be sponsored by Death Row, but the value of that deal would have to be justifiable as close to market value.

 

[Michu78]

What are the players doing, we get back into possession and the players are in a light jog to get forward.

 

[SwanseaBoy123]

Wrexham’s exposure and marketing potential is far greater than ours at the moment.

They are the most followed club in the football league internationally. Most overseas subscriptions to their games, an audience of about 5 million each episode of Welcome to Wrexham, biggest shirt sales internationally (outside the premier league).

Plus brands are desperate to be involved because of Reynolds in particular.

We will obviously start to see increases due to celebrity ownership links but we are a way away at the moment.

We are and always will be a way away from them in terms of marketability.

Snoop Dogg and Martha Stewart have very dodgy pasts, they're not exactly someone who most companies would want to endorse them imo.

Wrexham also benefitted from starting this journey in the National league where they were able to get promotions and build momentum in terms of marketability. If they had started even in league 1 where they might of sat mid table for a few seasons who knows what would have happened.

People just aren't really interested in a team which finishes mid table in the championship.

 

[Smurph]

We are and always will be a way away from them in terms of marketability.

Snoop Dogg and Martha Stewart have very dodgy pasts, they're not exactly someone who most companies would want to endorse them imo.

Wrexham also benefitted from starting this journey in the National league where they were able to get promotions and build momentum in terms of marketability. If they had started even in league 1 where they might of sat mid table for a few seasons who knows what would have happened.

People just aren't really interested in a team which finishes mid table in the championship.

Kid, you’ve got to be on a wind up. Only reason you pop up on here is to spread misery.

 

[jack_lord]

Wrexham’s exposure and marketing potential is far greater than ours at the moment.

They are the most followed club in the football league internationally. Most overseas subscriptions to their games, an audience of about 5 million each episode of Welcome to Wrexham, biggest shirt sales internationally (outside the premier league).

Plus brands are desperate to be involved because of Reynolds in particular.

We will obviously start to see increases due to celebrity ownership links but we are a way away at the moment.

Thanks for the answer. Does anyone know how big their following is internationally compared to the other football league clubs and their overseas subscriptions compare?
I do wonder what happens when the Wrexham love in ends because those supporters will abandon them as quickly as they joined.

 

[Frankie Burrows Cap]

Thanks for the answer. Does anyone know how big their following is internationally compared to the other football league clubs and their overseas subscriptions compare?
I do wonder what happens when the Wrexham love in ends because those supporters will abandon them as quickly as they joined.

In terms of what happens when ‘it’ ends it all depends what league they’re in at the time. If they’re in the Premier League it’s less of an issue as the likes of Brentford & Bournemouth have proved.

From the outside I’d imagine that (with the exception of wage commitments) they’d still be in a reasonable position whatever league they’re in though as it doesn’t appear that they’ve wracked up 10s/100s millions in debt like many Championship clubs.

 

[Neath_Jack]

In terms of what happens when ‘it’ ends it all depends what league they’re in at the time. If they’re in the Premier League it’s less of an issue as the likes of Brentford & Bournemouth have proved.

From the outside I’d imagine that (with the exception of wage commitments) they’d still be in a reasonable position whatever league they’re in though as it doesn’t appear that they’ve wracked up 10s/100s millions in debt like many Championship clubs.

They’ll be exactly the same as us I’d imagine. They’d lose some fans but others will hang around. They were always reasonably supported when they were last in the league system.

They’ve got a lot of premier clubs a short hop from them, we’ve got no excuse.