Alan Sheehan-Manager for Next Season

[bakajack]

So which part do you disagree with?

I was under the impression that you were amongst the most vocal that Martinball (and by extension Williamsball) was indulgent nonsense, and you were even one of the minority that said we were too quick to jettison Duff who had tried to change the culture, like Sheehan has.

So have you done a 180 on that now?

Anyone who thought that the Blackburn, Leeds or Plymouth performances were crap to watch needs to be sectioned

 

[Niigata Jack]

As far as a flashy European manager goes as I said on another thread what would we all have done if Van Nistleroy had thrown his hat into the ring pre Sheehan, with the work he did with PSV and with Piroe we'd all be creaming ourselves and now he's stunck the place out at Leicester and they can't wait to get rid. AS admitted that he and the players prob got it wrong v Derby but how many of our previous managers would have put their hands up...none

We won that game, 3 more pts onto the total which pulled us further away from trouble, no if’s or buts needed, we went on to beat Sunderland up there as well, we’re flying, he’s done very well and deserves his chance.

 

[cadleigh]

So which part do you disagree with?

I was under the impression that you were amongst the most vocal that Martinball (and by extension Williamsball) was indulgent nonsense, and you were even one of the minority that said we were too quick to jettison Duff who had tried to change the culture, like Sheehan has.

So have you done a 180 on that now?

Well as I understood it, your post said that our players are not very good, Sheehan understands this and that's why he set them up to play "ugly" football against Derby.

The Plymouth game showed that Sheehan is perfectly capable of setting his players up to play 'champagne football'. First manager we have had since Laudrup who both attempts to moderate his tactics according to the opposition and does it well (as I posted recently, Carvalhal tried but obviously did not succeed). Maybe I'm being a bit harsh on Potter. But Martin and Williams really only had one game plan, Cooper had several but kept sticking to each one for multiple games in a row even when they were no longer delivering, and I am not sure what Duff thought he was doing.

Anyway, the squad isn't perfect but I think you do them a disservice. There's talent there to build on.

 

[rockinj]

Okay it feels like the tide has turned and the groupthink is kicking in as ever.

My questions in relation to the hyperbole around improved performances and results.

Let’s say Sheehan gets the job permanently.

That will mean a summer of big change in personnel within the team (one would hope) that will mean Sheehan genuinely putting a marker down.

That is a very big difference to coming in as someone to “steady the ship” who has granted over performed to expectations. I thought we’d comfortably survive but to be fair it’s surpassed that expectation but that doesn’t change the central argument.

Sheehan will not have the bounce effect, he will be the permanent manager and that requires big decisions and a completely fresh league. Not one where teams are fizzling out their campaigns, stressing about safety or promotions. It’s a completely different animal.

Is he the man to build the team in the summer, set the team up with the right foundations have the tactical nous early on and be okay with upsetting some to players who let’s be frank he will have had a different relationship with as a coach. It’s clear he has helped galvanise, but galvanising is a short term impact.

Is he the man to take us to promotion back to the premier league. That’s the central question.

I strongly suggest this coming pre season is the biggest in years. We need to transform the team, remove the Swansea way ideology, rebuild the club. It’s a bloody big job.

 

[Smurph]

Okay it feels like the tide has turned and the groupthink is kicking in as ever.

My questions in relation to the hyperbole around improved performances and results.

Let’s say Sheehan gets the job permanently.

That will mean a summer of big change in personnel within the team (one would hope) that will mean Sheehan genuinely putting a marker down.

That is a very big difference to coming in as someone to “steady the ship” who has granted over performed to expectations. I thought we’d comfortably survive but to be fair it’s surpassed that expectation but that doesn’t change the central argument.

Sheehan will not have the bounce effect, he will be the permanent manager and that requires big decisions and a completely fresh league. Not one where teams are fizzling out their campaigns, stressing about safety or promotions. It’s a completely different animal.

Is he the man to build the team in the summer, set the team up with the right foundations have the tactical nous early on and be okay with upsetting some to players who let’s be frank he will have had a different relationship with as a coach. It’s clear he has helped galvanise, but galvanising is a short term impact.

Is he the man to take us to promotion back to the premier league. That’s the central question.

I strongly suggest this coming pre season is the biggest in years. We need to transform the team, remove the Swansea way ideology, rebuild the club. It’s a bloody big job.

There is no hyperbole around performances, at all.

The improvement in indivuals and overall team performance has been remarkable under Sheehan.

The man deserves to receive all the current platitudes he is.

This posts suggests you've not been watching a lot of the games of late.

 

[cadleigh]

Okay it feels like the tide has turned and the groupthink is kicking in as ever.

My questions in relation to the hyperbole around improved performances and results.

Let’s say Sheehan gets the job permanently.

That will mean a summer of big change in personnel within the team (one would hope) that will mean Sheehan genuinely putting a marker down.

That is a very big difference to coming in as someone to “steady the ship” who has granted over performed to expectations. I thought we’d comfortably survive but to be fair it’s surpassed that expectation but that doesn’t change the central argument.

Sheehan will not have the bounce effect, he will be the permanent manager and that requires big decisions and a completely fresh league. Not one where teams are fizzling out their campaigns, stressing about safety or promotions. It’s a completely different animal.

Is he the man to build the team in the summer, set the team up with the right foundations have the tactical nous early on and be okay with upsetting some to players who let’s be frank he will have had a different relationship with as a coach. It’s clear he has helped galvanise, but galvanising is a short term impact.

Is he the man to take us to promotion back to the premier league. That’s the central question.

I strongly suggest this coming pre season is the biggest in years. We need to transform the team, remove the Swansea way ideology, rebuild the club. It’s a bloody big job.

Hence my suggestion on another thread that we give him a one-year rolling contract with a guaranteed option to return to his old job by mutual consent if it doesn't work out and some hefty penalty clauses for any clubs that decide to poach him. We've spent far too much on compensation for managers who were given ridiculously long contracts before they had proved themselves. Although I do actually agree with Smurph in the post below yours.

 

[Neath_Jack]

Okay it feels like the tide has turned and the groupthink is kicking in as ever.

My questions in relation to the hyperbole around improved performances and results.

Let’s say Sheehan gets the job permanently.

That will mean a summer of big change in personnel within the team (one would hope) that will mean Sheehan genuinely putting a marker down.

That is a very big difference to coming in as someone to “steady the ship” who has granted over performed to expectations. I thought we’d comfortably survive but to be fair it’s surpassed that expectation but that doesn’t change the central argument.

Sheehan will not have the bounce effect, he will be the permanent manager and that requires big decisions and a completely fresh league. Not one where teams are fizzling out their campaigns, stressing about safety or promotions. It’s a completely different animal.

Is he the man to build the team in the summer, set the team up with the right foundations have the tactical nous early on and be okay with upsetting some to players who let’s be frank he will have had a different relationship with as a coach. It’s clear he has helped galvanise, but galvanising is a short term impact.

Is he the man to take us to promotion back to the premier league. That’s the central question.

I strongly suggest this coming pre season is the biggest in years. We need to transform the team, remove the Swansea way ideology, rebuild the club. It’s a bloody big job.

Any manager coming in is a gamble and will have to go through all of what you posted.

 

[monmouth]

I have doubts about Sheehan, but I’m have even more doubts about some manager that we have never seen. Some punts come off, most don’t. For every Martinez, there’s a Gregg, and a Greggs come to that.

So I stick with my lifelong managerial belief that you stick with what you know if they have 60-70% of what you need and are still learning. I do believe (or maybe hope) that is the case with Sheehan, and so would give him a whirl. As C says above though, with built in safeguards, say a year’s roller. If he won’t accept conditions acceptable to us, ok, look elsewhere. We don’t want to be paying off a 4 year contract next November.

Or of course, just look elsewhere if you really think you’re getting provably better…that’s what we pay the Clockwork Gorrange and the Notts punter for. Just not an owners ‘big name’ a la Rooney, Gerry or Lampoo please.

 

[ABSwan]

The new manage bounce!!!! I read this all the time and yes you do see new manager bounce, but new manager bounce normally lasts for a handful of games. I believe we're passed new manager bounce with Sheehan, I hope I stop reading that we're still seeing new manager bounce.

 

[bytholwyn]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1912915448384926040

A very strong candidate.

 

[bytholwyn]

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[rockinj]

The new manage bounce!!!! I read this all the time and yes you do see new manager bounce, but new manager bounce normally lasts for a handful of games. I believe we're passed new manager bounce with Sheehan, I hope I stop reading that we're still seeing new manager bounce.

Hope you’re right

 

[Itchysphincter]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1912915448384926040

A very strong candidate.

No disrespect but ….. meh.

Plenty of experience for a young man but not at a particularly high standard.

 

[rockinj]

Okay shall we make a deal. The ones who are backing Sheehan. When it hits Christmas and things potentially get sticky can you please not be calling his head. If youre backing him. Back him.

 

[Smurph]

This is a massive red flag for me. The majority of his teams passes were in between the 18 years box an the centre circle.