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Depends which way you look at it. Cullen is always going to care, irrespective of what he thinks of the manager. Then you look at the goals we conceded and see Key and Tymon give it away cheaply on a couple of occasions and Tymon's gentle jog back for the first one it does make you wonder

And without the intelligence and PR skills. And without winning 4/4 derby matches. I can't stand Martin but you can see why fans of a certain age liked him so much. Someone who is 30 now would have been 12 when Martinez took over, 16 when we got promoted to the Premier League and 19 by the...

But you probably wouldn't be conned into buying snake oil by a charming bloke with nice hair turning up on your doorstep. Thousands would be though.

The Russ fan boys will probably absolutely hate the type of new manager we now need. In hindsight, Duff spoke a lot of sense. You could probably say he was unlucky to lose his job given the records of who he replaced and who replaced him. Edit - and his record everywhere else he's managed.

That twat coming back really would be the end for me, I think.

^ manager

Fair enough mate! Least of our worries though imo. They're crap too but at least they've got some fight about them. We have nothing.

I don't know what Cardiff have to do with anything. You make your own luck in football and we don't deserve any.

Gutless captain, gutless team

Probably doing us a favour beating Derby

Williams is thick, tactically inept, boring and uninspiring. However our problems go far, far deeper than him. We'll no doubt sack him in due course and rightly so. The new manager will be even shitter though, no doubt

The constant theme of the season has been us getting worse as the game goes on.

If I'm honest I find it strange that people defend and accept some of the utter dross we have at the club at the moment. Over the "past few weeks", we've lost 4-0 at a team in the relegation zone, 3-0 at a team that have won 1 league game all season and been humiliated 3-0 at just above the...

Yet he'd probably be one of our best players now.

Didn't like Obafemi either despite him being one of our most threatening strikers of recent years.

Players like him would never make it in today's game. They just don't really exist anymore

He looks quite lively etc but he's crap

I am happy to be proven wrong but if they can't get up for a derby match after losing their previous two games 4-0 and 3-0, I'm not quite sure where they're suddenly going to find the skill or spine to beat a top side in the division in what's probably going to be, at best, a flat atmosphere

For what it's worth he's also followed the club's official account

I don't think this squad has the ability or the guts to bounce back from yesterday, especially against one of the better sides in the league. They're pretty gutless.