Caerphilly

[Niigata Jack]

Here’s a question, play along. If Labour and Reform were the only choices next May and you had to cast a vote, who would you vote for?

Put the kettle on and stay in and watch reruns of Four in a Bed, be far more interesting.

 

[Niigata Jack]

If I had no other choice and had to vote, it would be Labour everyday of the week and twice on Sunday.

Fuck Labour the Labour Party I grew up were nothing like this lot Starmer has been the massive disappointment I thought he'd be after his first month 6 weeks as the new leader.
I won't mention that other lot,

 

[jack123]

Fuck Labour the Labour Party I grew up were nothing like this lot Starmer has been the massive disappointment I thought he'd be after his first month 6 weeks as the new leader.
I won't mention that other lot,

They certainly aren't, hard to disagree with that. It's absolutely crazy, that when the writing was on the wall, that the tories would be ousted, and Labour were a certainty to get in, that their popularity has so rapidly declined!

For the Labour party to be in this state of affairs, is truly shocking!

Be it Wales Senedd or the next General Election, I think Labour are about to get an absolute trouncing on Election Day.

 

[rockinj]

It was a common mistake 15-20 years ago. It’s not now.

The Orange Book - Wikipedia

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[Epaul]

Racist scum got their arse kicked, thank f***, Plaid all the way next May, we really can't let Reform take over Wales

 

[Darran]

Fuck Labour the Labour Party I grew up were nothing like this lot Starmer has been the massive disappointment I thought he'd be after his first month 6 weeks as the new leader.
I won't mention that other lot,

He has been a disappointment but are you saying there he was a disappointment after 6 weeks in Number 10?

 

[Smurph]

He has been a disappointment but are you saying there he was a disappointment after 6 weeks in Number 10?

I'll put my neck on the line here and say he's been a disappointment since he was made leader of the Labour Party

 

[Darran]

I'll put my neck on the line here and say he's been a disappointment since he was made leader of the Labour Party

Yeah but he wasn’t running the country then.

 

[Pegojack]

The trouble with Starmer, and it would probably be the same with any Labour leader, he doesn't have the political will, the balls if you will, to do the things which really need doing, to make a difference. A radical resetting of the tax system so the rich pay a fair contribution, nationalisation of the main public services like water, power, rail, rejoining the EU, abolition of the House of Lords to be replaced by an elected second chamber, introduction of proportional representation in the voting system, a written constitution, much more money for local authorities, the NHS, the education system, sort out once and for all the social care system, investment in the armed forces and police, a radical overhaul of the role and finances of the royal family, a massive crackdown on the right wing media with financial penalties for inaccurate broadcasting or publishing. That'll do for a start.

 

[Smurph]

Yeah but he wasn’t running the country then.

True, he wasn't really holding the then government to account either.

 

[Smurph]

The trouble with Starmer, and it would probably be the same with any Labour leader, he doesn't have the political will, the balls if you will, to do the things which really need doing, to make a difference. A radical resetting of the tax system so the rich pay a fair contribution, nationalisation of the main public services like water, power, rail, rejoining the EU, abolition of the House of Lords to be replaced by an elected second chamber, introduction of proportional representation in the voting system, a written constitution, much more money for local authorities, the NHS, the education system, sort out once and for all the social care system, investment in the armed forces and police, a radical overhaul of the role and finances of the royal family, a massive crackdown on the right wing media with financial penalties for inaccurate broadcasting or publishing. That'll do for a start.

In my opinion he's always been weak.