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On the menu at the victory dinner, shit sandwiches followed by sour grapes.
 

He looks like ECB’s better looking younger brother.
 
Interested in why Starmer gave up Caerphilly so easily. The candidate was on hiding to nothing and didn’t seem to get much support from the party, compared to Reform wheeling out the big guns.
 
I am slightly ashamed to say that I was really surprised by the result. Obviously a brilliant surprise. I’m ashamed that I didn’t put more faith in the people of Caerphilly.

But it is indicative of the way the election was reported up here. Watching English rather than Welsh news led me to genuinely believe it was a completely done deal for Reform. Plaid were only ever spoken about as the likely runner up. All interviews were with people voting Reform who were frequently just unapologetically racist. Or at best, thick as mince.

It also surely shows that on a national level (both Wales and UK), Reform are being significantly overstated in polling. Which gives me heart.

This government are, so far, largely useless (and yes, I voted for them). Their comms are appalling, their mistakes too plentiful and Starmer has the charisma of a potato. But Reform are dangerous. Really, really dangerous. So anyone that can stop them, bring it on. If I was in Wales, I’d vote Plaid all day. Here, I’m not sure any more. I wish the LibDems would do something.

Anyway. Great result.
 
Interested in why Starmer gave up Caerphilly so easily. The candidate was on hiding to nothing and didn’t seem to get much support from the party, compared to Reform wheeling out the big guns.
They knew it was lost. No point the UK government associating with that. They’ve got enough problems. Wales is lost to Labour at least for now. Next May is a straight battle between Plaid and Reform.
 
They knew it was lost. No point the UK government associating with that. They’ve got enough problems. Wales is lost to Labour at least for now. Next May is a straight battle between Plaid and Reform.
Last part is almost certainly true about the largest party and First Minister, but the kingmakers will come from the other parties and with the new system every vote will count.
 
The excellent Martin Shipton sums it all up and note that anti racist groups also leafleted Caerffili
 
The Labour party in Wales have taken the people for granted for far too long and this result is proof of that.
The fear I got rightly or wrongly is that they won't differ much from Labour's policies, I hope not, this is a massive opportunity for Plaid to step out far and away from Labour after supporting them for the last few years or more and be a solid standalone party for Wales at last.
 
The fear I got rightly or wrongly is that they won't differ much from Labour's policies, I hope not, this is a massive opportunity for Plaid to step out far and away from Labour after supporting them for the last few years or more and be a solid standalone party for Wales at last.
Absolutely.

They have an opportunity to be a credible centre party but they’ve been basically Labour with the Welsh language for years now.

Rhun is a potentially a good leader for Wales but he has to move away from this soft left shit we’ve had for two decades.
 
I am slightly ashamed to say that I was really surprised by the result. Obviously a brilliant surprise. I’m ashamed that I didn’t put more faith in the people of Caerphilly.

But it is indicative of the way the election was reported up here. Watching English rather than Welsh news led me to genuinely believe it was a completely done deal for Reform. Plaid were only ever spoken about as the likely runner up. All interviews were with people voting Reform who were frequently just unapologetically racist. Or at best, thick as mince.

It also surely shows that on a national level (both Wales and UK), Reform are being significantly overstated in polling. Which gives me heart.

This government are, so far, largely useless (and yes, I voted for them). Their comms are appalling, their mistakes too plentiful and Starmer has the charisma of a potato. But Reform are dangerous. Really, really dangerous. So anyone that can stop them, bring it on. If I was in Wales, I’d vote Plaid all day. Here, I’m not sure any more. I wish the LibDems would do something.

Anyway. Great result.
Liberals are so disappointing in Wales.

They should be hoovering up the soft Tory vote. Jane Dodds negotiation skills my word haha.

Greyhound racing ban and a budget agreement. Cringeworthy
 
Liberals are so disappointing in Wales.

They should be hoovering up the soft Tory vote. Jane Dodds negotiation skills my word haha.

Greyhound racing ban and a budget agreement. Cringeworthy
I don’t know much about them in Wales tbh. We get no coverage of Welsh events here.

But they’d be pushing at an open door here if they could only wake up,
 
The LibDems here are almost a nonentity. They’ve been squeezed as the “third party” vote they’ve traditionally been in England by Plaid. Next years Senedd election could be a genuine watershed, not just for Wales but the UK as a whole.
 

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