Cameron Burgess

[Dr. Winston]

Some fantastic footwork there - the Wolves goal will live long in the memory

All for 25 grand.

 

[Andrew - North Hill]

The absolute last thing I'd have called Scotland is a target man to be honest. Bringing others into play was never a strength of his. He was just a ruthless goalscorer. We've not really had anyone like him since. Maybe Piroe was a bit similar in his ability to be anonymous for 20 minutes then conjure a goal out of absolutely nothing with a bit of skill.

Both could have played off Wilf very well.

Genuinely two footed as well. Hell of a player. One of my all time favs.

 

[bakajack]

Some fantastic footwork there - the Wolves goal will live long in the memory

I remember the absurdity of Jason Scotland being described as a lazy footballer in some circles
In the League One promotion season under Martinez it felt like an inevitability at some point to see his name pop up on the scoresheet

 

[Dr. Winston]

Genuinely two footed as well. Hell of a player. One of my all time favs.

Absurdly under appreciated as a major player in our rise. Worthy of a lot more respect than he gets.

 

[Andrew - North Hill]

I remember the absurdity of Jason Scotland being described as a lazy footballer in some circles
In the League One promotion season under Martinez it felt like an inevitability at some point to see his name pop up on the scoresheet

Unfortunately there was - and still is - a certain subset of our support who have, shall we say, certain expectations of certain players that Scotland did not conform to. His languid style was not really that much different to Lee Trundle, but he of course was never accused of being "lazy".

Contrast the treatment Scotland got compared to someone like Adrian Forbes, who was quarter of the player in terms of talent, but because he ran about like a madman he became a cult hero.

 

[Dr. Winston]

Scotland replaced Trundle and was better than him. A lot of people never forgave that.

 

[Londonlisa2001]

Didn't Ayew second time round get us single handed into the playoffs

Probably.

But it was disastrous financially. Taken years to recover.

 

[bakajack]

Trundle was the showman, the great entertainer

Scotland was a no frills go scorer, I still remember his cup performances in his final season against us in the two legs against (I think) Portsmouth. At the time he was a striker on the top of his game and he manhandled the opposition defenders like toddlers, scored in both the original tie and the replay if I recall correctly

 

[bakajack]

Probably.

But it was disastrous financially. Taken years to recover.

Arguably we are still recovering Lisa.
That time might no longer be on our PSR accounting but the after effects in having to downsize the academy, bargain basement recruitment, selling all of our best assets to the first bidder and the number of players let go or we were forced to sell because the owners couldn't / wouldn't give new contracts all of it had a huge part to do with the better part of 150k a week we were paying Ayew and Bony at the time.

 

[Londonlisa2001]

Arguably we are still recovering Lisa.
That time might no longer be on our PSR accounting but the after effects in having to downsize the academy, bargain basement recruitment, selling all of our best assets to the first bidder and the number of players let go or we were forced to sell because the owners couldn't / wouldn't give new contracts all of it had a huge part to do with the better part of 150k a week we were paying Ayew and Bony at the time.

Yes, I agree.

Shocking signing.

There are arguments to be honest that he was a shocking signing the first time financially. Him and Gomis changed the way we signed players (huge sign on fees) and it was a mistake. However good they were, we should never have been paying so much per week for players. Compare that with the bargains we picked up under Laudrup. We just seemed to panic and spend money we simply didn’t have.

 

[Andrew - North Hill]

Him and Gomis changed the way we signed players (huge sign on fees) and it was a mistake. However good they were, we should never have been paying so much per week for players. Compare that with the bargains we picked up under Laudrup. We just seemed to panic and spend money we simply didn’t have.

This pretty much nails where we started to go wrong. It's no coincidence that this was around the time Monk had Huw Jenkins's ear - Jenkins should have showed more balls and told him no much more than he did, but this was around the time he'd started to overthink things himself, with all the talk of needing a Plan B, more than one way of skinning a cat etc.

The Jenkins of 2008 would never have sanctioned such ostentatious signings, but by then he was panicking, obsessed with trying to ensure we didn't get relegated rather than continuing to run the club properly, as he once had done.

I'll never budge from my view that we got ourselves relegated through our own stupidity, more than anything else.

 

[bakajack]

This pretty much nails where we started to go wrong. It's no coincidence that this was around the time Monk had Huw Jenkins's ear - Jenkins should have showed more balls and told him no much more than he did, but this was around the time he'd started to overthink things himself, with all the talk of needing a Plan B, more than one way of skinning a cat etc.

The Jenkins of 2008 would never have sanctioned such ostentatious signings, but by then he was panicking, obsessed with trying to ensure we didn't get relegated rather than continuing to run the club properly, as he once had done.

I'll never budge from my view that we got ourselves relegated through our own stupidity, more than anything else.

Honestly getting relegated wouldn't have been the end of the world if we had remained true to our philosophy and continued to bring in consistency in terms of players and managers.

The Monk coup de tat and subsequent influence he had on Huw as Lisa said led to a radical change in the profile and recruitment method of players that we had gone for. At the time it could have been argued that the Ayew deal was good business since we got him for relative peanuts (reportedly about 6m signing on fee I believe) and sold him the next summer for 28m only for him to then suffer a season ending injury in his very first game for West Ham.

The shift in footballing style meant we were quickly changing from the "Swansealona" style to whatever it was that Monk coached, by the time we sacked him we were fire fighting year on year with increasingly expensive panic purchases and a string of managers who were all over the place stylistically.

The one opportunity we had to arrest that slide was when Rodgers became available again after his first Celtic stint and he and just about everyone else was expecting the reunion but the club surprised everyone else by making Guidolin's short term contract a long term one, only to then sack him less than two months into it.

From there it was just another succession of firefighters until in the end the house burned down and the rest is history.

 

[BLAZE]

Trundle was the showman, the great entertainer

Scotland was a no frills go scorer, I still remember his cup performances in his final season against us in the two legs against (I think) Portsmouth. At the time he was a striker on the top of his game and he manhandled the opposition defenders like toddlers, scored in both the original tie and the replay if I recall correctly

Fulham

 

[Martyn - Derwydd]

The absolute last thing I'd have called Scotland is a target man to be honest. Bringing others into play was never a strength of his. He was just a ruthless goalscorer. We've not really had anyone like him since. Maybe Piroe was a bit similar in his ability to be anonymous for 20 minutes then conjure a goal out of absolutely nothing with a bit of skill.

Both could have played off Wilf very well.

10 years after scoring 45 in 90 games for us.....

On 29 March 2019, Scotland joined the Nico's Cafe Bar pub team until the ended of the season

 

[Itchysphincter]

I remember the absurdity of Jason Scotland being described as a lazy footballer in some circles
In the League One promotion season under Martinez it felt like an inevitability at some point to see his name pop up on the scoresheet

One of the oddest descriptions of a footballer.

He wasn’t the quickest but he was skillful, busy and determined, and filling the boots of the mighty LT10 was some task but he did it well. Another cracking and under appreciated player.