England v Latvia

[bakajack]

England were shit on Saturday night, wonder if they will be any better this time.

As I type this Rashford goes over in a shameless dive looking for a penalty. Cheating bastard

 

[cockett_jack]

One hell of a free kick that was

 

[bakajack]

One hell of a free kick that was

Great free kick, but England as a team look super ordinary and are being carried by higher individual ability.
Reminds me of the "Galactico" Real Madrid sides of years gone by

 

[AusinIsOurHero]

same old for them, stroll through qualification unchallenged and come unstuck at a tournament as soon as the face any sort of quality

 

[Smurph]

same old for them, stroll through qualification unchallenged and come unstuck at a tournament as soon as the face any sort of quality

Tend to agree.

Prior to the tournament we will have the endless build up on how they're the favorites only to flop against the first decent team they play

They'll pick the same names based on reputation rather than form, Tuchel will get it in the neck because he's a foreign manager.

 

[monmouth]

Unfortunately they'll win something at some point. Already would have with a half tidy tactical manager that picked the proper players. There are no outstanding international teams that they couldn't challenge. Just got to hope the pressure gets to them and they pick crap.

 

[Smurph]

Unfortunately they'll win something at some point. Already would have with a half tidy tactical manager that picked the proper players. There are no outstanding international teams that they couldn't challenge. Just got to hope the pressure gets to them and they pick crap.

They have been saying the same thing since 1966

They shouldn't have binned Venables or Hoddle off.

 

[JackSomething]

The manager is always the reason they don't win anything, according to England fans. Never mind that the likes of Eriksson and Capello won plenty elsewhere, they just need the right manager and they'll win everything.

Given the pool of players they have to choose from, they must be the most underperforming nation in world football. The likes of Denmark and Greece have won international tournaments more recently than the mighty England.

 

[monmouth]

The manager is always the reason they don't win anything, according to England fans. Never mind that the likes of Eriksson and Capello won plenty elsewhere, they just need the right manager and they'll win everything.

Given the pool of players they have to choose from, they must be the most underperforming nation in world football. The likes of Denmark and Greece have won international tournaments more recently than the mighty England.

That's the issue right there. 'Mighty England'. One win in a home tournament fixed by the officials and they think they should win everything.

 

[monmouth]

They have been saying the same thing since 1966

They shouldn't have binned Venables or Hoddle off.

They should have beaten that Italy team in the Euros, especially after going one goal up, even if Peanut Williams was in charge. Southgate shat his pants in every single real chance they had when it looked like they might win. Playing 'penalty on Mars' Kane throughout because he was scared to drop him even though he kills the team didn't help.

 

[Smurph]

They should have beaten that Italy team in the Euros, especially after going one goal up, even if Peanut Williams was in charge. Southgate shat his pants in every single real chance they had when it looked like they might win. Playing 'penalty on Mars' Kane throughout because he was scared to drop him even though he kills the team didn't help.

Someone on here once mentioned he was Englands most successful manager.

Successful at shitting himself when it mattered.

 

[JackSomething]

Someone on here once mentioned he was Englands most successful manager.

Successful at shitting himself when it mattered.

Anyone saying that would be wrong. Saying he was England's second most successful manager would simply be stating facts.

Thankfully for us he was never able to get them over the final line, otherwise we'd never stop hearing about it.

 

[Smurph]

Anyone saying that would be wrong. Saying he was England's second most successful manager would simply be stating facts.

Thankfully for us he was never able to get them over the final line, otherwise we'd never stop hearing about it.

I wouldn't call him a success at all.

The way draws opened up for him in tournaments the only thing he was successful at was bottling things.

 

[Blackpooljack]

England winning anything is one of my biggest fears, we really would never hear the end of it.

 

[JackSomething]

I wouldn't call him a success at all.

The way draws opened up for him in tournaments the only thing he was successful at was bottling things.

We can hate England all we want, but this isn't the Ministry of Truth, facts are facts. Southgate achieved England's second, third and joint fourth best tournament performances.

If you're saying no manager is a success unless they win the tournament they're in, that's some pretty harsh criteria.