Fulton

[Neath_Jack]

I am a harsher critic on Jay than most, he is consistently inconsistent but the red card he got in the play off final was extremely harsh. A sliding tackle where his leading foot hit the top of the ball and bounced up making the tackle look far higher than was intended.

He got his tog stuck in the other players tog, around the heel area. Which made it look worse than what is was.

 

[Jackareme]

When we talk about progression - one of the best signs is when your starters become squad players for depth. Lets not throw the baby out with the bath water Fulton is a wonderful professional who always gives 100% and can be a good option when the manager is looking to close a game down (depending on cost).
HOWEVER, having said that, as a coach I look for strong attributes/deficiencies..I am afraid Fulton has some traits that are deal breakers for me in the sort of starting XI we need to build.
1. His grasp of pass and move ends at pass..I would encourage anyone to look at how Allen (best example) is/was always in motion making angles to take the next pass. Fulton makes a pass, and then stands intrigued to see what happens next. It is my belief that any player who is a spectator should pay like the rest of the Jack Army.
2. Jay is totally risk averse, and cannot grasp the equation of risk/reward. If there is a 100% safe pass available (normally sideways/backwards/short) he will take it - often ignoring forward looking options that offer high potential reward. This made him the worst possible partner for Grimes - but makes him useful for closing games down.
3. in the same vane as 1. above, he also stands and watches when he should be tracking runners, and is very slow to sniff out danger. He needs everything in front of him, because runners will get away from him. Add to that (and because he is often late to the party) he has a tendency to lunge into desperate tackles, give free kicks away in dangerous areas and invite cards (Wembley anyone?).

 

[bakajack]

When we talk about progression - one of the best signs is when your starters become squad players for depth. Lets not throw the baby out with the bath water Fulton is a wonderful professional who always gives 100% and can be a good option when the manager is looking to close a game down (depending on cost).
HOWEVER, having said that, as a coach I look for strong attributes/deficiencies..I am afraid Fulton has some traits that are deal breakers for me in the sort of starting XI we need to build.
1. His grasp of pass and move ends at pass..I would encourage anyone to look at how Allen (best example) is/was always in motion making angles to take the next pass. Fulton makes a pass, and then stands intrigued to see what happens next. It is my belief that any player who is a spectator should pay like the rest of the Jack Army.
2. Jay is totally risk averse, and cannot grasp the equation of risk/reward. If there is a 100% safe pass available (normally sideways/backwards/short) he will take it - often ignoring forward looking options that offer high potential reward. This made him the worst possible partner for Grimes - but makes him useful for closing games down.
3. in the same vane as 1. above, he also stands and watches when he should be tracking runners, and is very slow to sniff out danger. He needs everything in front of him, because runners will get away from him. Add to that (and because he is often late to the party) he has a tendency to lunge into desperate tackles, give free kicks away in dangerous areas and invite cards (Wembley anyone?).

I have disagreed with some of your previous posts but I thought this one was spot on

 

[monmouth]

When we talk about progression - one of the best signs is when your starters become squad players for depth. Lets not throw the baby out with the bath water Fulton is a wonderful professional who always gives 100% and can be a good option when the manager is looking to close a game down (depending on cost).
HOWEVER, having said that, as a coach I look for strong attributes/deficiencies..I am afraid Fulton has some traits that are deal breakers for me in the sort of starting XI we need to build.
1. His grasp of pass and move ends at pass..I would encourage anyone to look at how Allen (best example) is/was always in motion making angles to take the next pass. Fulton makes a pass, and then stands intrigued to see what happens next. It is my belief that any player who is a spectator should pay like the rest of the Jack Army.
2. Jay is totally risk averse, and cannot grasp the equation of risk/reward. If there is a 100% safe pass available (normally sideways/backwards/short) he will take it - often ignoring forward looking options that offer high potential reward. This made him the worst possible partner for Grimes - but makes him useful for closing games down.
3. in the same vane as 1. above, he also stands and watches when he should be tracking runners, and is very slow to sniff out danger. He needs everything in front of him, because runners will get away from him. Add to that (and because he is often late to the party) he has a tendency to lunge into desperate tackles, give free kicks away in dangerous areas and invite cards (Wembley anyone?).

Only one small observation. When he played with Grimes he didn't have to move to get the next pass.

 

[Blackpooljack]

I have disagreed with some of your previous posts but I thought this one was spot on

Me too

 

[Skippyjack]

Fulton was MOTM against Leeds, against some, let's face it Premier League players.. you can't rule him out on that basis.. maybe he's still got something to offer, maybe our analysis team can watch that game back and look into the right direction moving forward with him

 

[Itchysphincter]

Fulton was MOTM against Leeds, against some, let's face it Premier League players.. you can't rule him out on that basis.. maybe he's still got something to offer, maybe our analysis team can watch that game back and look into the right direction moving forward with him

What he has to offer is being a dependable squad player, and he can only be replaced by like for like, someone towards the end of their career, or someone developed by the club. Buying a first choice midfielder is not replacing Jay Fulton.

 

[bytholwyn]

Whether we like it or not he will very probably be still with us next season. There's no way he would command a fee, although I guess there's an outside chance he could get a multi year deal at a lower level if he's willing to take a pay cut.

The data backs up the observations made above. In the last 7 seasons his average Fotmob score has varied from 6.46 up to 6.9 in the 2022/23 season. 6.9 is a pretty decent score, anything below 6.5 is poor. His average this season is that 6.46 lowest average. On 8 out of 9 passing metrics his per 90 minutes stats are well below average. His shooting and possession stats are also poor. His defensive stats are slightly below average. His 76 per cent tackle success is his one big positive. His over two fouls per game is unsurprisingly well above average, as is his 6 yellow cards in the equivalent of 13 full matches in game time.

On top of this his passes are 33.2 per cent forwards and 25.9 per cent backwards. Earlier in the season they were pretty evenly matched, so I guess there has been some progress, literally, under Sheehan. His Fotmob ratings have improved marginally too, with an excellent score in the Leeds match and a decent one in the QPR one. So all is not lost. He will play quite a bit next season I suspect. Let's just hope that Sheehan can get the best version of Fulton on display. At his best he's a decent player - we just need to see a lot more of that than we saw this season.

 

[bytholwyn]

Also interesting to note that all six games where he rated 7 or better on Fotmob were games he started and played at least 74 minutes. In contrast, his cameos off the bench rated between 5.7 and only 6.5 at best. Perhaps this is partly down to him being tasked with seeing games out, and playing conservatively, but we really need better performances from him off the bench next season.