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JackSomething said:
Magic_Michu said:
To be fair though... in this case it's all about the character of the person involved.

Kev John has always appeared to squeaky clean, salt of the earth kind of the guy and his accusation seemed to be out of the blue and no other accusations from anyone else in over 40 yrs of working around kids were ever made. (not to say that always makes people innocent.)

Giggs on the other hand has history for being a bit of a knob... cheating with your brother's wife if pretty low.

Agree with you and Darran that Gigg's previous behaviour doesn't exactly paint him in a good light. As well as the affair with his brother's wife, wasn't he behind one of the super-injunctions a few years back about shagging someone else?

Still, it's a big step from shagging around (hardly something unheard of when it comes to professional footballers) to what he's accused of here.


If you can do that to your brother then you have zero moral compass... The guy is a cunt and you don't need a court of law to come to that conclusion.
 
Nocountryforoldjack said:
JackSomething said:
Agree with you and Darran that Gigg's previous behaviour doesn't exactly paint him in a good light. As well as the affair with his brother's wife, wasn't he behind one of the super-injunctions a few years back about shagging someone else?

Still, it's a big step from shagging around (hardly something unheard of when it comes to professional footballers) to what he's accused of here.


If you can do that to your brother then you have zero moral compass... The guy is a c**t and you don't need a court of law to come to that conclusion.

I don't need a court of law to decide that a man who shagged his brother's wife is guilty of assault and controlling behaviour? Thankfully the laws of this country disagree with you.

What next if we continue down that road? Someone has a criminal record for shoplifting, therefore they're automatically guilty if accused of murder?
 
JackSomething said:
Nocountryforoldjack said:
If you can do that to your brother then you have zero moral compass... The guy is a c**t and you don't need a court of law to come to that conclusion.

I don't need a court of law to decide that a man who shagged his brother's wife is guilty of assault and controlling behaviour? Thankfully the laws of this country disagree with you.

What next if we continue down that road? Someone has a criminal record for shoplifting, therefore they're automatically guilty if accused of murder?

Anyone seen Judy Finnigan lately?
 
JackSomething said:
Nocountryforoldjack said:
If you can do that to your brother then you have zero moral compass... The guy is a c**t and you don't need a court of law to come to that conclusion.

I don't need a court of law to decide that a man who shagged his brother's wife is guilty of assault and controlling behaviour? Thankfully the laws of this country disagree with you.

What next if we continue down that road? Someone has a criminal record for shoplifting, therefore they're automatically guilty if accused of murder?

I didn't say that though did I... Read it again
 
JackSomething said:
Nocountryforoldjack said:
If you can do that to your brother then you have zero moral compass... The guy is a c**t and you don't need a court of law to come to that conclusion.

I don't need a court of law to decide that a man who shagged his brother's wife is guilty of assault and controlling behaviour? Thankfully the laws of this country disagree with you.

What next if we continue down that road? Someone has a criminal record for shoplifting, therefore they're automatically guilty if accused of murder?

You are obviously his biggest fan coming up with that crap
 
Nocountryforoldjack said:
JackSomething said:
I don't need a court of law to decide that a man who shagged his brother's wife is guilty of assault and controlling behaviour? Thankfully the laws of this country disagree with you.

What next if we continue down that road? Someone has a criminal record for shoplifting, therefore they're automatically guilty if accused of murder?

I didn't say that though did I... Read it again

Then what were you saying? You were replying to my post saying that being a not being a nice person doesn't automatically make him guilty. If I've misinterpreted what you were trying to say, then feel free to enlighten me.

I couldn't give two shits about Ryan Giggs and as I've said, I hope he gets what he deserves if he is found guilty. Not sure why you seem to hate someone you've never met and has presumably had zero impact on your life though?
 
JackSomething said:
Nocountryforoldjack said:
I didn't say that though did I... Read it again

Then what were you saying? You were replying to my post saying that being a not being a nice person doesn't automatically make him guilty. If I've misinterpreted what you were trying to say, then feel free to enlighten me.

I couldn't give two shits about Ryan Giggs and as I've said, I hope he gets what he deserves if he is found guilty. Not sure why you seem to hate someone you've never met and has presumably had zero impact on your life though?


I don't hate him, my life is too good to waste it on hating people but as he is in the public eye and so is his history like most people I've made a judgement on him which I've expressed on a forum,I'm sure he has some redeeming features but as I don't know him I don't know what they are so I just go by what's in the media.
 
Nocountryforoldjack said:
JackSomething said:
Then what were you saying? You were replying to my post saying that being a not being a nice person doesn't automatically make him guilty. If I've misinterpreted what you were trying to say, then feel free to enlighten me.

I couldn't give two shits about Ryan Giggs and as I've said, I hope he gets what he deserves if he is found guilty. Not sure why you seem to hate someone you've never met and has presumably had zero impact on your life though?


I don't hate him, my life is too good to waste it on hating people but as he is in the public eye and so is his history like most people I've made a judgement on him which I've expressed on a forum,I'm sure he has some redeeming features but as I don't know him I don't know what they are so I just go by what's in the media.

No worries buddy, I don't care about him either way but certainly what's known about him doesn't suggest he's someone I'd like very much.

I only wanted to make the point that not being a very nice person doesn't automatically make him guilty of the crimes he's accused of. It doesn't look like we disagree on that, so let's leave it there and go enjoy this glorious sunshine. :)
 
JackSomething said:
Nocountryforoldjack said:
I don't hate him, my life is too good to waste it on hating people but as he is in the public eye and so is his history like most people I've made a judgement on him which I've expressed on a forum,I'm sure he has some redeeming features but as I don't know him I don't know what they are so I just go by what's in the media.

No worries buddy, I don't care about him either way but certainly what's known about him doesn't suggest he's someone I'd like very much.

I only wanted to make the point that not being a very nice person doesn't automatically make him guilty of the crimes he's accused of. It doesn't look like we disagree on that, so let's leave it there and go enjoy this glorious sunshine. :)

No of course not they are two totally separate things, I've no idea if he's guilty or not but 12 people will decide that based on the evidence b4 them. Have a blessed day.
 

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