Keir Starmer

[rockinj]

Part of the problem is that we aren’t use to governments governing because for about ten years and definitely since the EU referendum the last successive governments and prime ministers did very little of it. Your mileage will vary of course on how well this one is governing but at least it actually is making decisions and doing stuff , for better or worse.

What is mad is the amount of hostility to this Government from people who are really benefiting from it eg the workers right bill.

They have done a lot but their PR is appalling.

Where they have rightly drawn criticism is from the business community and the way they’ve not used circumstances to change course on tax for instance when events have presented opportunities. I do think on this they are getting closer to her right calls.

Going back to my original point the hostility from people who are slowly gaining from this gov is fascinating.

And Keir has been excellent on foreign affairs.

 

[exiledclaseboy]

What is mad is the amount of hostility to this Government from people who are really benefiting from it eg the workers right bill.

They have done a lot but their PR is appalling.

Where they have rightly drawn criticism is from the business community and the way they’ve not used circumstances to change course on tax for instance when events have presented opportunities. I do think on this they are getting closer to her right calls.

Going back to my original point the hostility from people who are slowly gaining from this gov is fascinating.

And Keir has been excellent on foreign affairs.

Nothing to argue with there. It’s Starmer Derangement Syndrome or perhaps Labour Derangement Syndrome.

 

[monmouth]

Nothing to argue with there. It’s Starmer Derangement Syndrome or perhaps Labour Derangement Syndrome.

I have real issues with Starmer and Labour since June 2924 when I was thrilled at turfing out those hopeless Tory scum, but it seems Starmer particularly gets personally blamed for not rectifying 14 really disastrous years while dealing with an impossible psychopath and his acolytes and tech enablers in Washington. The lambs up for slaughter think Fartage or Badenoch would help them more. It's beyond laughable. Even after Brexshit, which many of these people will have voted for. As they say, no cure for stupidity.

 

[Niigata Jack]

Which is shit but how is it Starmer’s fault that you can’t afford to retire?

I didn't I say it was mun, its just away the way things are in the World with with Ukraine and middle east wars, causing the costs to increase all the time, council tax, energy costs, food costs increasing, to live and to enjoy a few luxuries, holidays trips etc is gonna be a challenge to cover living costs without any luxuries, thousands of others are, will be thinking the same no doubt.

 

[Niigata Jack]

I have real issues with Starmer and Labour since June 2924 when I was thrilled at turfing out those hopeless Tory scum, but it seems Starmer particularly gets personally blamed for not rectifying 14 really disastrous years while dealing with an impossible psychopath and his acolytes and tech enablers in Washington. The lambs up for slaughter think Fartage or Badenoch would help them more. It's beyond laughable. Even after Brexshit, which many of these people will have voted for. As they say, no cure for stupidity.

Trumper has caused these problems to increase without doubt, because he's fecking idiot Iran wasn't posing an imminent threat surely, he has just bowed to the pressure Israel who were probably egging him on knowing that he'd kick off.

 

[MajorR]

Who owns the Pump House? Is it still Brains?

Always was expensive in there.

I thinks it’s Marston’s these day, I think they took over a lot of the Brains pubs a few years ago.

 

[Mamaswan]

Just watching PMQs. Never seen Starmer squirm and stutter so much. Keir Stammer more like.

 

[exiledclaseboy]

Just watching PMQs. Never seen Starmer squirm and stutter so much. Keir Stammer more like.

He’s been quite lucky in that Badenoch is absolutely useless generally and even more under her usual poor standards today. She could and should have absolutely skewered him. She didn’t.

 

[J_B]

It seems astonishing that they now propose to do things in a sensible order.
Like vetting someone before they appoint them.

 

[exiledclaseboy]

It seems astonishing that they now propose to do things in a sensible order.
Like vetting someone before they appoint them.

I mean you’re right but who’d have thought that twice sacked and well known dodgy fucker Peter Mandelson would have skeletons in his closet. No one can be blamed for not being able to foresee such an unexpected turn of events.

 

[3swan]

I mean you’re right but who’d have thought that twice sacked and well known dodgy fucker Peter Mandelson would have skeletons in his closet. No one can be blamed for not being able to foresee such an unexpected turn of events.

As the saying goes.

Anyone with half a brain

 

[monmouth]

This is all a pantomime really. Starmer is done, no matter what he knew didn't know or ought to have known. He has little political capital left beyond keeping us out of the war and making some (so far just) noises about trying to get closer to Europe, which any successor aint going to change direction on.

As soon as there is a plausible alternative (talk of Burnham managing a return now, or when Raynor is cleared by HMRC, or someone else that can cut through), he'll be forced out as a failure and he's brought it on his own head. As PM with a huge majority to do real lasting good, he has mostly been a dismal failure. Elected on 'change' it's felt like a slightly better version of the same. Like he has been carried by events and especially Treasury orthodoxy rather than shaped anything in a visionary way. Shame. We really need better, or it'll get much worse.

 

[Darran]

Just watching PMQs. Never seen Starmer squirm and stutter so much. Keir Stammer more like.

My mate in Baglan had a terrible stutter.
He came in the Baglan Social Club one evening to tell us his nana had died.

We all ended up singing Hey Jude.

 

[MajorR]

This is all a pantomime really. Starmer is done, no matter what he knew didn't know or ought to have known. He has little political capital left beyond keeping us out of the war and making some (so far just) noises about trying to get closer to Europe, which any successor aint going to change direction on.

As soon as there is a plausible alternative (talk of Burnham managing a return now, or when Raynor is cleared by HMRC, or someone else that can cut through), he'll be forced out as a failure and he's brought it on his own head. As PM with a huge majority to do real lasting good, he has mostly been a dismal failure. Elected on 'change' it's felt like a slightly better version of the same. Like he has been carried by events and especially Treasury orthodoxy rather than shaped anything in a visionary way. Shame. We really need better, or it'll get much worse.

Whether she’s cleared or not, I think Rayners is toast.
If she’s cleared people will just think it’s another establishment stitch up, it’s the second time questions have been asked about her financial affairs and people won’t wear it. Burnham could be a decent shout, but I’m struggling to think of anyone else who would have the charisma to take it on.

 

[Neath_Jack]

As the saying goes.

Anyone with half a brain

Would still be more intelligent than Darran?