lutons goals

[eteb]

just watched them again - all of them could and should have been avoided.

1 - a bit unlucky actually, didnt realise bennett headed it away straight into their player.

2 - awful naughts, clear it our pass back to keeper ffs

3 - no idea what hamer was doing, literally could have picked it up as it rolled past him

 

[Nocountryforoldjack]

Defensively we were all over the place yesterday... They could have score at least two more, teams will see what Luton did yesterday abs they will use it as a tactic against us so we need to improve and become more resilient to being bullied.

 

[Hillbillyjack]

just watched them again - all of them could and should have been avoided.

1 - a bit unlucky actually, didnt realise bennett headed it away straight into their player.

2 - awful naughts, clear it our pass back to keeper ffs

3 - no idea what hamer was doing, literally could have picked it up as it rolled past him

The first goal walsh was sleeping let his man go to volley it in.should have run with him and at least put him off

 

[monmouth]

1. You just can’t give someone that much space 10 to 15 yards from your net.
2. You can’t go fannying about when you are that slow, and then not keep well away from the player in the box. Stupid.
3. Sweet Baby Jesus.

It was all a symptom of general headless chicken and not knowing what to do when pressed. Need to wise up as everyone will do it now.

 

[Badlands]

It's what happens when you mess about with a defensive line up.
1) No one to dominate or put off the header of the ball (Cabango, Ayew, Cooper, Rodon, Van Der Hoorn, Ash) or just put them off. 5 players going for the ball and midfield (Walsh I think) sleeping.
2) Peterson weak and Williams out of position but waiting for a Naughton pass so stayed wide rather than cover Naughton. (Naughton covering Williams but where was Manning?) Tussle and their player went down easily but no arguments .. a penalty. Maybe should have hacked him down outside the box but would that have given the ref reason to sent naughty off.
3) long cross field ball caught Manning out of position and couldn't recover. I think Hamer was caught out by Williams' move to the ball and expected him to clear it then Naughton and Bennett got mugged at the far post. Could Hamer have got to it? Possibly but it most 'keepers would have let the ball cross the front of goal for defenders to clean up.
Noticeable the the three goals came from our left with Naughton, Manning and Williams not on the same page.

 

[Baron Goblet]

That's a good summary. Could gave been 5 down in the first half but had two or three good chances ourselves. Very surprising game I was expecting a heavy loss but Luton tired and we showed what we can do. The Lansbury foul was shocking. Assault but difficult to prove as the idiot will stick to his story.

 

[bakajack]

The first goal was in one part bad luck and another bad marking. Bennett did well to get his head to the ball and it was unfortunate the way it ricocheted off the back of a Luton player's head and sat up perfectly for a volley from the goal scorer. Bad marking however left that scorer with no one within several yards of him and all the time in the world to line up said volley.

The second goal was a case where the safe play was always going to be the best play. Naughton doesn't have the strength to muscle out an attacker to run the ball out of play or the pace to get back goalside when he lost the ball. He wasn't helped by Manning being so far out of position that he wasn't even in the camera shot, however this was absolutely Naughton's fault for not doing the safe thing when he was isolated against the attacker.

The third goal came from an excellent diagonal ball however it was the same play that Luton had made about five or six times in the first half hour and we never learned or adapted to that. Ultimately the goal was a howler from Hamer who simply left the ball to run past him on the assumption that it would run out of play only to get blindsided by the goalscorer who was left with a tap in. Hamer's confidence got rattled badly early on in the game and both the Luton players and the fans smelled blood every time the ball was given back to him piling on the pressure and forcing mistake after mistake.

I cannot remember us looking that disjointed defensively for several seasons at least. Definitely a learning experience for Williams and hopefully also for RM. Other teams will have watched that horror display and without a doubt will look to replicate that success in our next few games.

 

[mrploppy]

First goal was a bit of bad luck from a ricochet. I don't even blame Walsh because it could quite easily have dropped in a safe place.

Second goal is obviously a nightmare for Naughts. Firstly, get rid or foul him outside the box. Secondly, once he's nicked the ball off you and got inside the box, leave him the hell alone because he's looking for a chance to go down. Other players (Downes?) were arriving to cover. If they score, fair enough, but giving them a pen guarantees them a goal.

Third goal. Having seen it again Williams could have anticipated the cross, slid in and blocked the ball coming across (like Ash used to do regularly). Even then Hamer could have just fallen on it. Terrible.

 

[swan65split]

First goal was a bit of bad luck from a ricochet. I don't even blame Walsh because it could quite easily have dropped in a safe place.

Second goal is obviously a nightmare for Naughts. Firstly, get rid or foul him outside the box. Secondly, once he's nicked the ball off you and got inside the box, leave him the hell alone because he's looking for a chance to go down. Other players (Downes?) were arriving to cover. If they score, fair enough, but giving them a pen guarantees them a goal.

Third goal. Having seen it again Williams could have anticipated the cross, slid in and blocked the ball coming across (like Ash used to do regularly). Even then Hamer could have just fallen on it. Terrible.

Second goal outside the area touch by the look of it.

 

[mrploppy]

First goal was a bit of bad luck from a ricochet. I don't even blame Walsh because it could quite easily have dropped in a safe place.

Second goal is obviously a nightmare for Naughts. Firstly, get rid or foul him outside the box. Secondly, once he's nicked the ball off you and got inside the box, leave him the hell alone because he's looking for a chance to go down. Other players (Downes?) were arriving to cover. If they score, fair enough, but giving them a pen guarantees them a goal.

Third goal. Having seen it again Williams could have anticipated the cross, slid in and blocked the ball coming across (like Ash used to do regularly). Even then Hamer could have just fallen on it. Terrible.

Second goal outside the area touch by the look of it.

From what I could tell, started outside but carried on inside - hence the penalty.

 

[swan65split]

Second goal outside the area touch by the look of it.

From what I could tell, started outside but carried on inside - hence the penalty.

I was shown a pic where his feet are outside and he is already going down.

 

[mrploppy]

From what I could tell, started outside but carried on inside - hence the penalty.

I was shown a pic where his feet are outside and he is already going down.

You may well be right. I've just watched the highlights and gone forward frame by frame. He's certainly "on his way down" while still outside the box, but I think Naughts is still making contact after he's gone inside. If we had VAR I doubt it would have overturned the decision whether it was given or not. It's brain-dead by Naughts though - once the player's got goal-side and he's in the box, he shouldn't be going anywhere near him.

 

[Swanjaxs]

I was shown a pic where his feet are outside and he is already going down.

You may well be right. I've just watched the highlights and gone forward frame by frame. He's certainly "on his way down" while still outside the box, but I think Naughts is still making contact after he's gone inside. If we had VAR I doubt it would have overturned the decision whether it was given or not. It's brain-dead by Naughts though - once the player's got goal-side and he's in the box, he shouldn't be going anywhere near him.

Let's be honest if Naughton had made contact with thier player on the touchline and he processed to execute a couple of dozen backflips into the area that ref would still have pointed to the spot.

 

[mrploppy]

You may well be right. I've just watched the highlights and gone forward frame by frame. He's certainly "on his way down" while still outside the box, but I think Naughts is still making contact after he's gone inside. If we had VAR I doubt it would have overturned the decision whether it was given or not. It's brain-dead by Naughts though - once the player's got goal-side and he's in the box, he shouldn't be going anywhere near him.

Let's be honest if Naughton had made contact with thier player on the touchline and he processed to execute a couple of dozen backflips into the area that ref would still have pointed to the spot.

You're probably right.