Mark Robins - wrong on both statements

[K23]

In his after match interview, Mark Robins said "the second goal is two yards off, that’s a disappointment the linesman’s got to be up with play but he wasn’t"

Look at the still below at the point where Ntcham is just releasing the ball, it's probably no more than about 10cm from his foot, and Laird is level with the last defender. Hard to tell from that angle whether the VAR lines would have judged that to be offside but two yards FFS? Absolutely no way.

And look where the linesman is, 100% bang in line with Laird and the defender so wrong again Mr Robins, he was well up with play and, in fact, could not possibly have been better placed.

 

[STID2017]

His whole after match statement was the only let down of a good evening of football player by two good sides and of course the result was right for us.
Both sets of fans were excellent too

 

[Aubrey Hambone]

I think Robbins and Coventry are getting a little ahead of themselves, let's see who ends up above who at the end of the season...

 

[J_B]

Robins should apologise to the assistant ref. I suggest that the assistant ref doesn’t hold his breath…

 

[bakajack]

In his after match interview, Mark Robins said "the second goal is two yards off, that’s a disappointment the linesman’s got to be up with play but he wasn’t"

Look at the still below at the point where Ntcham is just releasing the ball, it's probably no more than about 10cm from his foot, and Laird is level with the last defender. Hard to tell from that angle whether the VAR lines would have judged that to be offside but two yards FFS? Absolutely no way.

And look where the linesman is, 100% bang in line with Laird and the defender so wrong again Mr Robins, he was well up with play and, in fact, could not possibly have been better placed.

Best I could do with the not especially clear pitch stripes. I would say that Laird was off but not by much (perhaps a foot at most) and with his pace it would have been hard for a linesman who was also running to keep up with play to judge the instant that left Ntcham's boot.

The red line was the next furthest ahead pitch stripe.

 

[K23]

Best I could do with the not especially clear pitch stripes. I would say that Laird was off but not by much (perhaps a foot at most) and with his pace it would have been hard for a linesman who was also running to keep up with play to judge the instant that left Ntcham's boot.

The red line was the next furthest ahead pitch stripe.

In old money, pre-VAR, that would be called "level" IMO

 

[WalterBoyd]

We won. Great performance against a very good team who pressed us, alot of fans doubted if we could cope with a high press against us, I did, given early season performances.

We showed yesterday how much we have improved as a team in a very short space of time.

3 points away from home is always good, but against a team who have had a great start to the season and who were unbeaten at home makes it all the sweeter.

Whisper it and lets keep it between ourselves but we have a manager working wonders and a really good mix of players, age, experience, skill, but they all seem to have the right attitude and have bought into the plan. That is vital.

Watching Lairds interview in the week, was really interesting. He seems a great bloke, and the fact he played under Russ last year, he must have helped convince our players to buy into the plan as it will work. Very influential for a young player.

Many doubters, not just our fans but also players. Understandably.

I have not been this excited by a new manager since Martinez. I think Russ will achieve more with us if we can keep him and hopefully do a Brendan.

 

[mrploppy]

In his after match interview, Mark Robins said "the second goal is two yards off, that’s a disappointment the linesman’s got to be up with play but he wasn’t"

Look at the still below at the point where Ntcham is just releasing the ball, it's probably no more than about 10cm from his foot, and Laird is level with the last defender. Hard to tell from that angle whether the VAR lines would have judged that to be offside but two yards FFS? Absolutely no way.

And look where the linesman is, 100% bang in line with Laird and the defender so wrong again Mr Robins, he was well up with play and, in fact, could not possibly have been better placed.

Best I could do with the not especially clear pitch stripes. I would say that Laird was off but not by much (perhaps a foot at most) and with his pace it would have been hard for a linesman who was also running to keep up with play to judge the instant that left Ntcham's boot.

The red line was the next furthest ahead pitch stripe.

Not that it matters, but Laird was a good yard offside. The lines you've drawn are not parallel to the stripes on the pitch. Must admit, I was surprised when I watched it back because I didn't spot it in real time. We got away with one there.

 

[Jacket]

Must have a back yard the size of a postage stamp if he reckons there’s two of the bleeders between Laird and their last defenders. You need to freeze that a nanosecond sooner to decide conclusively if that’s off side. The ball has just left his foot there I reckon, but it’s difficult to tell due to the poor quality of Sky’s pictures for these red button matches. Do they use 1990s cam corders?

 

[K23]

Must have a back yard the size of a postage stamp if he reckons there’s two of the bleeders between Laird and their last defenders. You need to freeze that a nanosecond sooner to decide conclusively if that’s off side. The ball has just left his foot there I reckon, but it’s difficult to tell due to the poor quality of Sky’s pictures for these red button matches. Do they use 1990s cam corders?

You're absolutely right, I tried doing it frame by frame but the resolution was very poor indeed and that frame was the nearest I could get to the moment of Ntcham's ball release but as you say, it has just left his foot as I pointed out. However, my point was about Robins' claim that Laird was 2 yards offside when the ball was played and that the lino was not up with play (which were both clearly utter bollocks) and not about whether or not Laird was offside.

 

[K23]

Best I could do with the not especially clear pitch stripes. I would say that Laird was off but not by much (perhaps a foot at most) and with his pace it would have been hard for a linesman who was also running to keep up with play to judge the instant that left Ntcham's boot.

The red line was the next furthest ahead pitch stripe.

Not that it matters, but Laird was a good yard offside. The lines you've drawn are not parallel to the stripes on the pitch. Must admit, I was surprised when I watched it back because I didn't spot it in real time. We got away with one there.

I think bakajack has done a pretty good job with those lines to be fair and if not absolutely spot on, they are very close indeed to the lawnmower lines. And if you think Laird is a yard offside in that freeze frame, I can only assume you and Robins use the same brand of tape measure. 2 yards? More like 2 Rizlas!

 

[Aubrey Hambone]

Onside
Offside
Who cares?
Coventry City 1 SwanseaCity 2

 

[mrploppy]

Not that it matters, but Laird was a good yard offside. The lines you've drawn are not parallel to the stripes on the pitch. Must admit, I was surprised when I watched it back because I didn't spot it in real time. We got away with one there.

I think bakajack has done a pretty good job with those lines to be fair and if not absolutely spot on, they are very close indeed to the lawnmower lines. And if you think Laird is a yard offside in that freeze frame, I can only assume you and Robins use the same brand of tape measure. 2 yards? More like 2 Rizlas!

Nah mate, they're way off. Have a look at the mower line that's almost tangential to the centre circle, and then tell me blue lines are parallel to that. Obviously, any lines going across the pitch will appear to converge as they go further away, so they won't appear perfectly parallel, but you know what I mean. Anyway, we don't need lines - watch it back in real time, it's pretty obvious. I don't really care mind, because it looked to me like Coventry were offside a couple of times (although they didn't score) and they weren't given.

 

[bakajack]

I think bakajack has done a pretty good job with those lines to be fair and if not absolutely spot on, they are very close indeed to the lawnmower lines. And if you think Laird is a yard offside in that freeze frame, I can only assume you and Robins use the same brand of tape measure. 2 yards? More like 2 Rizlas!

Nah mate, they're way off. Have a look at the mower line that's almost tangential to the centre circle, and then tell me blue lines are parallel to that. Obviously, any lines going across the pitch will appear to converge as they go further away, so they won't appear perfectly parallel, but you know what I mean. Anyway, we don't need lines - watch it back in real time, it's pretty obvious. I don't really care mind, because it looked to me like Coventry were offside a couple of times (although they didn't score) and they weren't given.

These were done using a straight line from the almighty MS Paint using the clearly visible lawnmower lines at the bottom of the image. If they used better lawnmowers or if Sky used cameras not from the 60s then I could have given you something more definitive

 

[monmouth]

Nah mate, they're way off. Have a look at the mower line that's almost tangential to the centre circle, and then tell me blue lines are parallel to that. Obviously, any lines going across the pitch will appear to converge as they go further away, so they won't appear perfectly parallel, but you know what I mean. Anyway, we don't need lines - watch it back in real time, it's pretty obvious. I don't really care mind, because it looked to me like Coventry were offside a couple of times (although they didn't score) and they weren't given.

These were done using a straight line from the almighty MS Paint using the clearly visible lawnmower lines at the bottom of the image. If they used better lawnmowers or if Sky used cameras not from the 60s then I could have given you something more definitive

Perpendicular to the touchline puts him easily onside doesn't it? Anyway, so close and benefit of doubt to the attacker and the fact Robins is already blatantly lying about the linesman, puts him a yard on.