NHS nurses pay - undervalued again

[Pentyrchjack]

My wife joined the peaceful pay protest today outside the so called Welsh Parliament.

I had zero expectation that Boris would put his money where his mouth is, but this is a real p1ss poor show from Welsh Labour too who are hiding behind an official spokesperson’s meaningless statement.



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-53664749

 

[Swanjaxs]

The same NHS that came to his rescue, when he feard he would not be around to see his child grow up.

 

[Darran]

Great thread. #Angels

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/nurses-protest-pay-rise-wales-18737955

 

[KrunchyKarrot]

My wife joined the peaceful pay protest today outside the so called Welsh Parliament.

I had zero expectation that Boris would put his money where his mouth is, but this is a real p1ss poor show from Welsh Labour too who are hiding behind an official spokesperson’s meaningless statement.



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-53664749

Just out of curiosity how much does a standard nurse earn. I know a few people who work in the care sector and the wage is woeful for what they do.

 

[Pentyrchjack]

My wife joined the peaceful pay protest today outside the so called Welsh Parliament.

I had zero expectation that Boris would put his money where his mouth is, but this is a real p1ss poor show from Welsh Labour too who are hiding behind an official spokesperson’s meaningless statement.



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-53664749

Just out of curiosity how much does a standard nurse earn. I know a few people who work in the care sector and the wage is woeful for what they do.

Most nurses are on £24-30k, deputy sisters £30-35k, sisters and ward managers£35-40k.

In Britain, the wage difference between nurses and doctors is proportionately bigger than most developed countries.

 

[KrunchyKarrot]

Just out of curiosity how much does a standard nurse earn. I know a few people who work in the care sector and the wage is woeful for what they do.

Most nurses are on £24-30k, deputy sisters £30-35k, sisters and ward managers£35-40k.

In Britain, the wage difference between nurses and doctors is proportionately bigger than most developed countries.

Thanks, what i dont understand is how can the nurse in the articleworking in IC earn less now? I thought they were out to get more money for the lower paid staff like porters and the old sen's. I just dont get it?

 

[controversial_jack]

Just out of curiosity how much does a standard nurse earn. I know a few people who work in the care sector and the wage is woeful for what they do.

Most nurses are on £24-30k, deputy sisters £30-35k, sisters and ward managers£35-40k.

In Britain, the wage difference between nurses and doctors is proportionately bigger than most developed countries.

Yes it is, and the care assistants who do the day to day care and nursing are on a lot less.Admittedly they don't have the quals, but they are in the real frontline.

 

[Pentyrchjack]

Most nurses are on £24-30k, deputy sisters £30-35k, sisters and ward managers£35-40k.

In Britain, the wage difference between nurses and doctors is proportionately bigger than most developed countries.

Thanks, what i dont understand is how can the nurse in the articleworking in IC earn less now? I thought they were out to get more money for the lower paid staff like porters and the old sen's. I just dont get it?

It’s because the differential between the lowest paid unskilled or semi skilled NHS workers and the skilled nurses has been closed. So higher paid nurses have got less of a real terms increase and unskilled / semi skilled have got more. This is a deliberately divisive pay policy because all NHS staff, irrespective of skill level, should catch up on all the years of austerity driven zero pay awards.

Given their collective bargaining power, I’m really surprised how meek the nursing unions are compared to, say, the rail unions who get deserved pay and conditions for their members.

As I said earlier though, Welsh Labour should be ashamed of itself and should be making a strong move to distance itself from the NHS pay policy of the Westminster Torres.

 

[Pentyrchjack]

Most nurses are on £24-30k, deputy sisters £30-35k, sisters and ward managers£35-40k.

In Britain, the wage difference between nurses and doctors is proportionately bigger than most developed countries.

Yes it is, and the care assistants who do the day to day care and nursing are on a lot less.Admittedly they don't have the quals, but they are in the real frontline.

I can see why you say that although most nurses are frontline. My wife is a Sister and is nursing COVID palliative patients in their homes - that’s pretty front line without the protection of working in a hospital. The problem with comparing care workers’ pay with nurses’ pay is that it is divisive. All care workers, porters and nurses should be rewarded according to the important jobs they do.

 

[Swanjaxs]

No words needed

 

[KrunchyKarrot]

Thanks, what i dont understand is how can the nurse in the articleworking in IC earn less now? I thought they were out to get more money for the lower paid staff like porters and the old sen's. I just dont get it?

It’s because the differential between the lowest paid unskilled or semi skilled NHS workers and the skilled nurses has been closed. So higher paid nurses have got less of a real terms increase and unskilled / semi skilled have got more. This is a deliberately divisive pay policy because all NHS staff, irrespective of skill level, should catch up on all the years of austerity driven zero pay awards.

Given their collective bargaining power, I’m really surprised how meek the nursing unions are compared to, say, the rail unions who get deserved pay and conditions for their members.

As I said earlier though, Welsh Labour should be ashamed of itself and should be making a strong move to distance itself from the NHS pay policy of the Westminster Torres.

Ok now i understand, so what are the "lowest paid unskilled or semi skilled NHS workers " earning in the NHS? as most of the Care Homes are paying very low salaries for this work.

 

[BanosSwan]

It’s because the differential between the lowest paid unskilled or semi skilled NHS workers and the skilled nurses has been closed. So higher paid nurses have got less of a real terms increase and unskilled / semi skilled have got more. This is a deliberately divisive pay policy because all NHS staff, irrespective of skill level, should catch up on all the years of austerity driven zero pay awards.

Given their collective bargaining power, I’m really surprised how meek the nursing unions are compared to, say, the rail unions who get deserved pay and conditions for their members.

As I said earlier though, Welsh Labour should be ashamed of itself and should be making a strong move to distance itself from the NHS pay policy of the Westminster Torres.

Ok now i understand, so what are the "lowest paid unskilled or semi skilled NHS workers " earning in the NHS? as most of the Care Homes are paying very low salaries for this work.

This gives the current agenda for change rates and examples of the roles involved:

https://www.healthcareers.nhs.uk/working-health/working-nhs/nhs-pay-and-benefits/agenda-change-pay-rates

 

[controversial_jack]

Ok now i understand, so what are the "lowest paid unskilled or semi skilled NHS workers " earning in the NHS? as most of the Care Homes are paying very low salaries for this work.

This gives the current agenda for change rates and examples of the roles involved:

https://www.healthcareers.nhs.uk/working-health/working-nhs/nhs-pay-and-benefits/agenda-change-pay-rates

Healthcare assistants with a few years experience are on about £9.80 per hour

 

[BanosSwan]

This gives the current agenda for change rates and examples of the roles involved:

https://www.healthcareers.nhs.uk/working-health/working-nhs/nhs-pay-and-benefits/agenda-change-pay-rates

Healthcare assistants with a few years experience are on about £9.80 per hour

Tend to start on minimum wage, then get more as they complete their nvqs