Predict the date of Martin's sacking

[K23]

I don't think it will be soon. I think he'll get until Xmas which is basically half a season. By then it's not beyond the realms of possibility that will have been in the bottom 3 for about 2 months and showing no signs of being able to get out as we sit on our hands while watching our goal difference deteriorate. Everyone has their breaking point and 1/2 a season in and still staring down the barrel may be the Yanks' point of no return.

 

[monmouth]

Why would he walk and not get his payout?

Managers just don’t do that.

When I say walk, I mean negotiated settlement. He’ll want to go if the heat is cranked up, and if the heat is being cranked up we’ll want him gone. I still don’t believe we’ll be below about 15th 16th, but I don’t believe the football will get better and the home games against teams that realise how to set themselves up to counter us will be agonising. But that won’t be all teams. We’ll win some…will that lower the heat. Maybe but it will always be a temporary stay because he won’t change a model of football that everyone can see the faults of with our squad. He’s right when he says that last two minutes vs Milly changed a lot, he’s not right when he acts as if they couldn’t have scored a few in that game anyway to peg us back.

Someone said, he’s building his story. I think he’ll spend a fair bit of time doing that and why nothing was his fault. If he’s fails at his next club, things will get tough for him. But maybe he’ll fall lucky like Cooper, get a Spence and Johnson type as wingbacks and he’s away. He’d loan them out of course and bring in Milton K Don.

 

[CurtessECarr]

I never want us to lose games. However if it speeds up this ''Process'' I'll willingly accept it.

 

[Niigata Jack]

The earliest it will be will be during the World Cup break and it probably won’t happen at all.

The owners would have to pay him and his coaches off and then find a new manager. They won’t do that.

This 100% I don't think they'll be bothered if we go down, as mad as that seems, I think they see us as a lost cause and have lost interest, I hope I'm wrong of course and they see sense or Martin see's some sense and alters is plan.

 

[Niigata Jack]

We'll win one and draw the other at Boro and Stoke or win both. I have a feeling. Sorry. Everything will be sweetness and light in Yankee-wankee Land then for a while.

The thing is with my feelings though, he's likely to be toast by Saturday night.

I think he'll walk. I don't think he has the mental strength to cope with not being adored.

He was far from adored at MKD's but they didn't pull the lever, he left under his own steam, maybe he sensed the inevitability of the situation there and was happy to go and I think he was promised more here than than he may have possibly had, but the money that's been wasted over the yrs by these Yanks must amount to many multiple millions.

 

[monmouth]

They cheered him to the rafters with an all sides standing ovation when they thought he'd turned us down didn't they? I recall on their site they were gutted to lose him, or rather, thrilled when they thought they hadn't, whatever they said afterwards he shat on them when they reinvented history sharpish.

 

[Swansea93]

Lose our next 2 games which imo is very likely, then QPR at home is going to be fun..

 

[sainthelens]

Lose our next 2 games which imo is very likely, then QPR at home is going to be fun..

Fun ?? Fun?? You fckn masochist :lol:

 

[Donnybackspin]

The Yanks couldn't care less, he won't be sacked. But on a plus side loads of good clubs to visit in League 1 and not too far away

 

[DJack]

Lose our next 2 games which imo is very likely, then QPR at home is going to be fun..

Fun ?? Fun?? You fckn masochist :lol:

:see_no_evil: :hear_no_evil: :speak_no_evil:

 

[Goldminer]

I wish it had already happened.

 

[RodgerTheDodger]

Martin is not a clever man. A good trainer perhaps, not a manager.
He's not clever enough to see that his rules that the team must play by are the problem.
He's not clever enough to understand that tactics have moved on past the ideas he has lifted from earlier great teams.
He doesn't have enough self assurance to give players their head and let them play, that would make him less important.
He doesn't have enough insight to understand what is going on around him in the team.
The team only wins when they ignore his instructions and just play, then he does one of his passive aggressive pressers, as opposed to his plain aggressive pressers when they lose.

IMHO (and it really is very humble) Swansea have a very good team, except there seems to be no meaningful defensive coaching and the midfield look like they spend every training session practising triangles and nothing else.

BTW, the Americans in business are nothing if not ruthless. That is the culture, somtimes it quite takes your breathe away. Full on ra-ra support to 'kill' with 24 hours.

 

[Nocountryforoldjack]

Martin is not a clever man. A good trainer perhaps, not a manager.
He's not clever enough to see that his rules that the team must play by are the problem.
He's not clever enough to understand that tactics have moved on past the ideas he has lifted from earlier great teams.
He doesn't have enough self assurance to give players their head and let them play, that would make him less important.
He doesn't have enough insight to understand what is going on around him in the team.
The team only wins when they ignore his instructions and just play, then he does one of his passive aggressive pressers, as opposed to his plain aggressive pressers when they lose.

IMHO (and it really is very humble) Swansea have a very good team, except there seems to be no meaningful defensive coaching and the midfield look like they spend every training session practising triangles and nothing else.

BTW, the Americans in business are nothing if not ruthless. That is the culture, somtimes it quite takes your breathe away. Full on ra-ra support to 'kill' with 24 hours.

We need to get a manager in who knows what he's doing to try and save the season.

 

[RodgerTheDodger]

Why would he walk and not get his payout?

Managers just don’t do that.

When I say walk, I mean negotiated settlement. He’ll want to go if the heat is cranked up, and if the heat is being cranked up we’ll want him gone. I still don’t believe we’ll be below about 15th 16th, but I don’t believe the football will get better and the home games against teams that realise how to set themselves up to counter us will be agonising. But that won’t be all teams. We’ll win some…will that lower the heat. Maybe but it will always be a temporary stay because he won’t change a model of football that everyone can see the faults of with our squad. He’s right when he says that last two minutes vs Milly changed a lot, he’s not right when he acts as if they couldn’t have scored a few in that game anyway to peg us back.

Someone said, he’s building his story. I think he’ll spend a fair bit of time doing that and why nothing was his fault. If he’s fails at his next club, things will get tough for him. But maybe he’ll fall lucky like Cooper, get a Spence and Johnson type as wingbacks and he’s away. He’d loan them out of course and bring in Milton K Don.

Martin doesn't like wingbacks. If he had them he would play them deep and it would smother their game.