RM

[JackBaston]

its september and an amazing comeback most managers and players wouldve gave up on. more positives for me

 

[Swansea93]

Work in progress as was expected when he joined 5 days before the first game, if you accepted that when he was appointed then you wouldn’t be throwing your toys out of the pram asking for him to leave ALREADY.

Give the bloke a chance ffs, you can clearly see he’s implementing it we have a good squad one certainly more capable than scrapping relegation, over reacting is laughable, when you think it took Klopp 3/4 years to do anything for Liverpool.

If by January we’re in a similar situation then yeah questions may be asked, be he needs 2/3 windows to get his own squad he wants and right now we still have weaknesses in the squad that will let the playing style down.

He hasn’t exactly been dealt the best of hands to start with has he, the board’s incompetence to get Cooper out sooner has hindered our start with a new manager, players not fit, players injured and Covid thrown in he’s been unlucky with the start he’s had, give it time, plus he’s always been upfront and said it will be short term pain while he gets his system in place.

Great Post except I have not asked him to leave, I was reacting to a first half that was beyond terrible and if we hadn't drawn today then I'm sure a few more fans would be over reacting. Changing a manager every 2 months will get a team relagated, asking a manager on a forum to get a grip is merely an emotional rant, I guess you don't do them huh.

My bad I had it in my head from other people on social media and the other forum kicking off saying he should leave.

 

[monmouth]

I said this about Cooper and I will say it about Martin. He needs to learn and show that he is learning. Cooper never did either.

Ask any whang that wants Martin out who they would have instead and where they would get the 3 years of compo from. I swear that some pricks, no names but cue a minute of ‘highlights’, still don’t realise that it was never a choice between Cooper and Martin when they pine for mummy and continually compare with new step mum.

 

[monmouth]

To be fair NCFOJ has been positive and I think he’s right, a 3 or 4 goal hammering at Luton (and it was looking that way) would have led to a lot of knee jerk reactions. I don’t think I would have been immune from that.

 

[Darran]

We should be getting better results and have more points on the board whilst RM is changing/imposing his style on the team.
The fact we are one game off the bottom of league as it stands with Huddersfield and Fulham to come shouldn’t be good enough by anyone’s standards.

 

[Nocountryforoldjack]

Great Post except I have not asked him to leave, I was reacting to a first half that was beyond terrible and if we hadn't drawn today then I'm sure a few more fans would be over reacting. Changing a manager every 2 months will get a team relagated, asking a manager on a forum to get a grip is merely an emotional rant, I guess you don't do them huh.

My bad I had it in my head from other people on social media and the other forum kicking off saying he should leave.

No mate I don't want him to leave, I do think he is and can be a good manager for us, just frustrated by todays first half..... onto the next game

 

[Darran]

My bad I had it in my head from other people on social media and the other forum kicking off saying he should leave.

No mate I don't want him to leave, I do think he is and can be a good manager for us, just frustrated by todays first half..... onto the next game

And you’ve got every right to be.

 

[JustJack]

It's how you see your glass really

No win in 4

No defeat in 3

 

[Samba]

I guess I'm just still trying to come to terms with that first half.. Obvs Martin got it totally wrong and changed it for a very good 2nd half fight back but come on, find your best 11 and stick with that.

Perhaps he has his best team in his head but wants to try other options for later on in the season if/when we start getting injuries. Awful 30 minutes, park football defending. Great second half performance but defence still looked ropey.

Great improvement RM, keep it going.

 

[Vetchonian]

I said this about Cooper and I will say it about Martin. He needs to learn and show that he is learning. Cooper never did either.

Ask any whang that wants Martin out who they would have instead and where they would get the 3 years of compo from. I swear that some pricks, no names but cue a minute of ‘highlights’, still don’t realise that it was never a choice between Cooper and Martin when they pine for mummy and continually compare with new step mum.

Here I am......Lets start I dont want Martin out , i am not sitting here waiting here for him to fail so as I can gloat....I want him as i do with any manager who has managed us to be successful. Having to replace yet another manager will be suicide for us both financially and footballing wise as we get another tweak in style.

Yes I posted a highlights video tongue in cheek this week because I get so p1**ed off hearing all this Cooperball hoofball sh1t whn in fact we passed the ball alot last season and as I said a neutral watching the highlights from Tuesday and the Birmingham game from last season also a goaless draw would be hard pressed to argue they were the not the same manager.

Cooper has gone Martin is here I do not pine for the man but I do for the results he managed...without that comeback today we would be in the relegation spots whilst those below have picked up wins.....still early days but sometimes once sucked in there it is hard to get out...... or wish to continually compare him with his successor but Martins his start has been less than spectacular.....as you say it will be interesting to see if he is learning...todays starting formation and tactics were way off the change to 2 up top with more purpose with the ball less faffining about with a focus on retaining possession . How much possession did we have first half but that didnt stop them scoring 3 goals and they could have had a couple more whilst we looked nowhere near a threat.

As has been said elsewhere we won at Bristol and drew today playing with 2 up top and a no 10 whilst being more direct lets hope this is the approach against Huddersfield otherwise it is obvious Martin isnt learning either......when the starting line up was announced most fans took a sharp intake of breath and couldnt believe the selection....lets hope against Huddersfield he gets it right formation and tactically.

 

[Baron Goblet]

Pre match Russ said he would rotate. Not starting Smith or Fulton for Downes was a mistake. We got lucky which was predictable. MK Dons were the same.

 

[Jinxy]

I have a feeling RM doesn't have a "best 11" strategy. It's more likely about establishing an ethos throughout the squad and club imo. He needs to test different players in different positions, get them fitter etc. and restore our passing and attacking style. This will take time folks. I've said it before, and I'll say it again - we need to be patient. I think we're onto something special here, and I'd rather watch us play this style (once refined) than shite that gets us flirting with promotion with no end point, other than being cannon fodder.

 

[JackSomething]

I have a feeling RM doesn't have a "best 11" strategy. It's more likely about establishing an ethos throughout the squad and club imo. He needs to test different players in different positions, get them fitter etc. and restore our passing and attacking style. This will take time folks. I've said it before, and I'll say it again - we need to be patient. I think we're onto something special here, and I'd rather watch us play this style (once refined) than shite that gets us flirting with promotion with no end point, other than being cannon fodder.

I'm not as confident as that, but I'm hopeful that we're building towards something and we have to hope it all comes together at some point, the sooner the better.

I don't think we were building towards anything under Cooper, does anyone really think we'd have been pushing for promotion again if he was still here? I can't see it, having lost so many of our best players from last year, especially Cooper's frequent get out of jail free card in Ayew. It never seemed like we had a style of play that Cooper was building towards, other than keep it tight and try to nick a goal.

Be interesting to see who gets picked on Wednesday and if anyone who comes in and impresses is also picked on Saturday.

 

[monmouth]

I'm not as confident as that, but I'm hopeful that we're building towards something and we have to hope it all comes together at some point, the sooner the better.

I don't think we were building towards anything under Cooper, does anyone really think we'd have been pushing for promotion again if he was still here? I can't see it, having lost so many of our best players from last year, especially Cooper's frequent get out of jail free card in Ayew. It never seemed like we had a style of play that Cooper was building towards, other than keep it tight and try to nick a goal.

Be interesting to see who gets picked on Wednesday and if anyone who comes in and impresses is also picked on Saturday.

It seems the answer might be more straightforward


Martin added: “We had our best players on the pitch, and that’s something we’ve not been able to do because of covid, pre-season injuries and fitness.

“Olivier couldn’t do three games from the start because he’s not done a pre-season, Ben Cabango was completely wiped out from Wednesday and his covid bout, Flynn Downes the same – that’s why he came off – and Joel Piroe is getting up to speed in the Championship, so that’s why we’ve had to make these changes.

“That’s why I am consistent in what I say in the media. I believe in the players so much that when we keep these guys on the pitch then we will be more than competitive, and I’m so grateful.“

 

[Longlostjack]

I'm not as confident as that, but I'm hopeful that we're building towards something and we have to hope it all comes together at some point, the sooner the better.

I don't think we were building towards anything under Cooper, does anyone really think we'd have been pushing for promotion again if he was still here? I can't see it, having lost so many of our best players from last year, especially Cooper's frequent get out of jail free card in Ayew. It never seemed like we had a style of play that Cooper was building towards, other than keep it tight and try to nick a goal.

Be interesting to see who gets picked on Wednesday and if anyone who comes in and impresses is also picked on Saturday.

It seems the answer might be more straightforward


Martin added: “We had our best players on the pitch, and that’s something we’ve not been able to do because of covid, pre-season injuries and fitness.

“Olivier couldn’t do three games from the start because he’s not done a pre-season, Ben Cabango was completely wiped out from Wednesday and his covid bout, Flynn Downes the same – that’s why he came off – and Joel Piroe is getting up to speed in the Championship, so that’s why we’ve had to make these changes.

“That’s why I am consistent in what I say in the media. I believe in the players so much that when we keep these guys on the pitch then we will be more than competitive, and I’m so grateful.“

No mention of Whitaker? What the hell’s going on there?