The end of free TV license for over 75s

[DJack]

I'm not shouting... it's called emphasis Anyway back on track...

The sophistry in both yours and Lavrovs post is obvious. At one time I thought you were just a "useful idiot" but it is apparent that you are either an apologist or a shill. The apologists and shills use FUD, sophistry, outright lies, misdirection, half truths, tautologies, "just asking questions", " "listen to this and research for yourself" as a basic function. This is then amplified by poisoned sources of information and paid for articles backing their points up.

Fact - the sample did not contain BZ, the separate control sample may have.

Fact - As a "reminder" to youThe OPCW stated that "11.The TAV team notes that the toxic chemical was of high purity. The latter is concluded from the almost complete absence of impurities."

Then you blather about whistleblowers, OPCW and Syria (more FUD for the gullible). The OPCW is an arm of the United Nations. It can only publicise reports that are approved by ALL of the the 5 permanent members of the security council. Can you guess which member repeatedly forces relevent information to be cut from these reports and/or changes the wording so that the report is basically very watered down...yes, RUSSIA


Yes, you will fool a few on here but many can see through your agenda.

I am not a Sophist. I believe in truth and not in winning arguments. You are right that I have an agenda. My agenda is to tell the truth to those like you who have been brainwashed. I am not a supporter of any political group. I am just an old man who is weary and fed up with listening to liars and hypocrites all my life.

When I say you are brainwashed I mean that you have beliefs that contradict your common sense and your own experience. You have these beliefs because they have been planted in your brain by propaganda masquerading as news.

If you are free of the tricks of the Sophists that accuse me of using then you will be able to answer the following question honestly. In the video clip from 2:44 to 3:10 in Andy1300’s post above do you think these "victims of a chemical attack" are acting?

If your answer is yes then what does that tell you about the reliability of the BBC when it comes to telling the truth?

In the spirit of honesty, I also challenge you to read the list of inconsistencies in the following link about the Skripal story and then tell me that you believe we are being told the truth about what happened there. What is your rough percentage of belief in our Government’s story now compared to your percentage of belief after reading the article?

https://www.theblogmire.com/the-salisbu ... de-a-hoax/

...So you failed to address the sophistry of Lavrov's tweet, you failed to address the fact that BZ WAS a control sample and the fact that the Novichok was high purity and not a "strange" version... Therefore your spirit of honesty is anything but!


I've been around on this board for a few iterations. I was born and lived for many years in Swansea. At least one poster knows me (we were in comprehensive together). Another poster, I used to talk to in Tesco when they worked there...TBH they don't remember me. If I "outed" myself there will be many who know me (and call me horrible names as I was nasty to them online). I would also mention that I lived in sink estates with a socialist parent and both parents marched on CND protests... I'm the person most likely to be pulled/pushed to hate the state and fall for manipulation by vested interests (I'm not a fan particularly). I make up my own mind.



Let's see your balls. Who the fuck are you comrade?

 

[The.Taz]

Get fkd! It's Piker Paul in a new disguise. The idiot from Mumbles with less intelligence than a blood sucking leach. Why you had to give yourself a new identity I do not know?

My names not Paul
I’m not from Mumbles

It’s spelt”Leech”
You’re a very bitter and simple person

Take a chill pill
Goodnight

Don't call me simple or bitter you cnt.

You, Sir, are an asshole of the highest quality.

Regards

Bryn

But you are dear boy. More simple than Simon and more bitter than Worthington’s.
You need to suppress your anger issues, it’s not helping your blood pressure and can lead to heart attacks and strokes, especially if you’re obese or over 50.
Calm down Brynnie Boy and suck a sherbet lemon

 

[Best_loser]

Why would anyone pay for a licence to be fed non-stop propaganda? The only thing I used to watch was MOTD but that has become the BLM show with a bit of football and pointless chat added to it. The theme tune just makes me feel sick now.

There is a series on Murdoch soon, no doubt you tory loons on here will say it's biased

 

[exiledclaseboy]

It’s “licence” by the way.

 

[Toronto_Motors]

Not really sure there are countries more divided than ours.
Rich v poor

north v south

Private /public school

Oxbridge versus the rest

Now old v young.

The young,like most previous generation fully believe themselves to be immortal and indefactigable and always ready to blame others or everything.
The old are simply seen as shite until they die and then we see the disingenuous eulogies and flowers in the rain. This country has lost its family unit.In the likes of Italy,families willingly take in their old ,whereas here,they squabble to find somewhere to house them.

Nobody has a "right" to but their own home;many chose and still do not to and that is choice. I do feel for kids now as the old industries have gone that would afford them a living .

All in all, not good at all.

 

[Arthur_From_OTB]

...So you failed to address the sophistry of Lavrov's tweet, you failed to address the fact that BZ WAS a control sample and the fact that the Novichok was high purity and not a "strange" version... Therefore your spirit of honesty is anything but!

I've been around on this board for a few iterations. I was born and lived for many years in Swansea. At least one poster knows me (we were in comprehensive together). Another poster, I used to talk to in Tesco when they worked there...TBH they don't remember me. If I "outed" myself there will be many who know me (and call me horrible names as I was nasty to them online). I would also mention that I lived in sink estates with a socialist parent and both parents marched on CND protests... I'm the person most likely to be pulled/pushed to hate the state and fall for manipulation by vested interests (I'm not a fan particularly). I make up my own mind.

Let's see your balls. Who the fuck are you comrade?

Your post is a weird mixture of non sequitur and bluster.

What on earth has who you talked to in Tesco or what school you went to got to do with so called novichok poisoning in Salisbury or the use of the BBC as a state propaganda outlet?

I don’t know why you are so angry with me. If you calm down and answer my questions honestly we will get to the truth together. The truth is a real thing. It is not someone’s point of view. It is independent of our beliefs and wishes despite what some academics who lack common sense might tell you. The earth moves around the sun whether we believe it does or not. “And yet it moves” Galileo said despite officially accepting the establishment belief that the sun moved around a stationary earth.

I will give an honest answer to any relevant question you ask. Who I am or where I live is not relevant to Salisbury or the BBC. In the same spirit of honesty, please answer the following two questions :

1. Do you think the “chemical attack victims” in the link in my earlier post are acting?
2. Do you have 100% confidence in our government’s Skripal story after reading all the inconsistencies in the following link?

https://www.theblogmire.com/the-salisbu ... de-a-hoax/

You said I didn’t address your questions about the sample given to the Swiss lab. The Russians said the sample contained BZ but OPCW said the BZ was only in the control sample. I don’t know who is telling the truth. To know that we need to know if the lab usually add BZ to control samples and we need to know exactly what steps were taken to prevent any contamination of the sample. We need proof that the samples have not been interfered with. That information is not available to us so we can only trust our government and OPCW to tell the truth. But they are like unreliable witnesses in a court case. They have both been caught lying so we are going to need hard evidence from them rather than just taking their word.

 

[DJack]

...So you failed to address the sophistry of Lavrov's tweet, you failed to address the fact that BZ WAS a control sample and the fact that the Novichok was high purity and not a "strange" version... Therefore your spirit of honesty is anything but!

I've been around on this board for a few iterations. I was born and lived for many years in Swansea. At least one poster knows me (we were in comprehensive together). Another poster, I used to talk to in Tesco when they worked there...TBH they don't remember me. If I "outed" myself there will be many who know me (and call me horrible names as I was nasty to them online). I would also mention that I lived in sink estates with a socialist parent and both parents marched on CND protests... I'm the person most likely to be pulled/pushed to hate the state and fall for manipulation by vested interests (I'm not a fan particularly). I make up my own mind.

Let's see your balls. Who the fuck are you comrade?

Your post is a weird mixture of non sequitur and bluster.

What on earth has who you talked to in Tesco or what school you went to got to do with so called novichok poisoning in Salisbury or the use of the BBC as a state propaganda outlet?

I don’t know why you are so angry with me. If you calm down and answer my questions honestly we will get to the truth together. The truth is a real thing. It is not someone’s point of view. It is independent of our beliefs and wishes despite what some academics who lack common sense might tell you. The earth moves around the sun whether we believe it does or not. “And yet it moves” Galileo said despite officially accepting the establishment belief that the sun moved around a stationary earth.

I will give an honest answer to any relevant question you ask. Who I am or where I live is not relevant to Salisbury or the BBC. In the same spirit of honesty, please answer the following two questions :

1. Do you think the “chemical attack victims” in the link in my earlier post are acting?
2. Do you have 100% confidence in our government’s Skripal story after reading all the inconsistencies in the following link?

https://www.theblogmire.com/the-salisbu ... de-a-hoax/

You said I didn’t address your questions about the sample given to the Swiss lab. The Russians said the sample contained BZ but OPCW said the BZ was only in the control sample. I don’t know who is telling the truth. To know that we need to know if the lab usually add BZ to control samples and we need to know exactly what steps were taken to prevent any contamination of the sample. We need proof that the samples have not been interfered with. That information is not available to us so we can only trust our government and OPCW to tell the truth. But they are like unreliable witnesses in a court case. They have both been caught lying so we are going to need hard evidence from them rather than just taking their word.

My background is why I'm part of this community (Planet Swans), you are the interloper, the cuckoo in the nest.

 

[ABSwan]

So Russia Today is a reliable source? Several videos removed from Twitter as clearly demonstrated to have been untrue or faked. How easily we are being duped by a dictator with his union pulling the stings in the UK

Which bits in the video are you saying are faked?

The obviously faked section from 2:44 to 3:10 was part of a BBC Panorama programme that was shown to millions as part of black propaganda attempt to get us to invade Syria. Are you saying it is not fake? Perhaps you are saying the BBC didn’t broadcast it and it was invented by RT?

The evidence (3:24 -3:58) from the daughter of the Kuwait Ambassador to the USA who pretended to be a nurse who witnessed Iraqi soldiers taking babies out of incubators and leaving them on the cold floor to die was broadcast around the world. Do you think she was telling the truth or do you accept it was black propaganda? Lies like that got a lot of people killed. Liars and black propaganda are usually the cause of most wars.

Do believe in the concept of truth? Perhaps you one of those cynics who believes that lies are justified because our supposed enemies are also liars? Listen to this guy boasting about the CIA approach to truth :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RmEsPE7iq0

Putin is not a dictator. Don’t talk nonsense. He was elected by a massive majority in a free election. What strings is he pulling in the UK? Why do you think Twitter should be the ultimate arbiter of truth?

Russia Today :roll:


Putin is not a dictator. :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[Simulacrum]

I think the License fee should be means tested, if you can afford to pay, you should pay.

As for BBC bias, it's been accused of both left and right wing bias so it must be somewhere in the middle. I hardly trust any news source anymore but the BBC isn't as bad as some others. Russia today is way down the list, it's Putins mouthpiece.

 

[Arthur_From_OTB]

My background is why I'm part of this community (Planet Swans), you are the interloper, the cuckoo in the nest.

Ok. Goodbye.