Covid Reflection Day

[Muteswan]

A very personal time for me. My mother died during the first few days of lockdown from a Covid related problem at the nursing home. My sister and I were unable to be with her at the end and because I’m immuno suppressed I couldn’t even go to the funeral.

 

[rockinj]

As though the virus recognised geographical boundaries!
There should have been a British approach but Johnson didn't answer the phone to Drakeford or Sturgeon.

That maybe true but there were silly little differences brought in that made literally no sense just to be different.

 

[jack123]

A very personal time for me. My mother died during the first few days of lockdown from a Covid related problem at the nursing home. My sister and I were unable to be with her at the end and because I’m immuno suppressed I couldn’t even go to the funeral.

Sorry for your loss, that’s bloody awful

 

[rockinj]

Apart from lockdown #1, wasn't Wales ahead of the curve when it came to subsequent measures? I seem to recall whatever Welsh Gov did, Boris ended up doing it 2 weeks later, having let things go to shit deaths-wise.

If WG were that crap, then why is it England followed them, rather than the other way round?

(Disclaimer: the taping off aisles in supermarkets was bloody stupid though, WG cocked up big time with that nonsense, it was laughably stupid)

You won’t get me defending Johnson I thought he up there as worst PM.

But!

The UK Government had a much more challenging situation. They had to balance health with the economy too.

The Welsh Gov could lockdown forever without the worry about having to raise revenue. That’s the problem with devolution, notice any tax raising powers the Welsh gov have they never use. That would lead to accountability.

 

[Andrew - North Hill]

The UK Government had a much more challenging situation. They had to balance health with the economy too.

They were under exactly the same challenges as any of the devolved nations.

Arguably, Wales's NHS was in a worse state than England's heading into the pandemic - less funds, older and sicker population, etc.

So not sure that line of argument really rings true.

 

[rockinj]

They were under exactly the same challenges as any of the devolved nations.

Arguably, Wales's NHS was in a worse state than England's heading into the pandemic - less funds, older and sicker population, etc.

So not sure that line of argument really rings true.

Budget mate. Raising taxes, worrying about the growth of the economy, productivity etc etc.

The Welsh Gov basically get a grant of money that’s it. The finance sec just distributes it’s very very different.

 

[rockinj]

They were under exactly the same challenges as any of the devolved nations.

Arguably, Wales's NHS was in a worse state than England's heading into the pandemic - less funds, older and sicker population, etc.

So not sure that line of argument really rings true.

Btw where less funds in terms of health system for Wales? That’s the excuse that’s trotted out it’s not true

 

[Muteswan]

Sorry for your loss, that’s bloody awful

Cheers pal.

 

[Longlostjack]

A very personal time for me. My mother died during the first few days of lockdown from a Covid related problem at the nursing home. My sister and I were unable to be with her at the end and because I’m immuno suppressed I couldn’t even go to the funeral.

Exactly the same here Mute. I wasn’t immuno suppressed but they weren’t allowing visitors and air travel was impossible. Who’s decision was it to release patients from hospitals into care homes without proper testing. Matt effing Hancock.

 

[Muteswan]

Exactly the same here Mute.

Sorry to hear that. Tough times.

 

[jack123]

I do wonder even with the power of hindsight, if anyone could go back in time, what could we really do? Ok, there is criticism of a lockdown happening too late, say we go back in time, and locked down a month earlier? Would the outcome be any different, when you look at it Covid was around for a couple of years.

I don’t know, obviously some of the blame for this has to be directed towards the epicentre of where the virus originated in Wuhan, and their failures.

But i think to direct blame on our government at the time, with regards to the spread of it, is completely futile, because really what difference would it make if other countries around the world are not in unison with that approach.

 

[magicdaps10]

5 yrs ago.....unbelievable.

This working from home bollocks needs to stop.

 

[Niigata Jack]

5 yrs ago.....unbelievable.

This working from home bollocks needs to stop.

Why do you think it's bollocks its a necessity in some jobs and that's a fact.

 

[rockinj]

Why do you think it's bollocks its a necessity in some jobs and that's a fact.

I’d like to know why as well.

I can see both sides.

 

[Jack2jack]

Why do you think it's bollocks its a necessity in some jobs and that's a fact.

Whys that, it wasnt before covid, so why is it now. Unless you are a carer or something similar, folk need to get back to work, it's not healthy, to be stuck at home, especially if you live alone. For others it's an excuse to do FA. Sorry for the rant, but we needed to get back to normal, not this new normal bollox.
Theres a lot of employers who've had enough and getting employees back to work. And for all those say otherwise I've heard it all before. Rant over, it's a pet hate of mine.