Neath_Jack
Roger Freestone
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Should they be jailed for significant time?
Bonkers isn’t it. That’s all I’ve heard today is that should get severe jail time. If they do and that is the road we are going down, then the current sentencing guidelines need to be ripped up and start again.Obviously not. I’m struggling with how this is apparently the biggest news story in the uk today.
Which is absolutely mental. And how can a tree have such a monetary value? Who’s lost that hundreds of thousands of pounds? I absolutely get that it’s criminal damage. The twats that did it are, well, twats who should be punished. But sending them to jail for any length of time would be a perfect illustration of why our jails are so full we’re either having to let actual societal dangers out early or not sending them there in the first place.Given that it’s criminal damage. The tree was over 200 years old, and worth hundreds of thousands of pounds. They can expect upto 10 years imprisonment.
I only mentioned the value, as it's been mentioned several times ( I guess if you walked into Dobbies and wanted a 200 year old sessile oak that's what youd expect to pay). For many worldwide by the way, monetary value doent even come into it, for many it's a spiritual place, with spiritual meaning, (bollox maybe) which I suppose many wouldnt understand. Anyway, I completely concur that a sentance of upto 10 years is a bit mad given that some crimes, often against people, dont carry such a hefty sentance. I do however believe some sort of custodial sentance is appropriate in such a high profile case. I would also agree that a complete overhaul of the judicial system is more than overdue.Which is absolutely mental. And how can a tree have such a monetary value? Who’s lost that hundreds of thousands of pounds? I absolutely get that it’s criminal damage. The twats that did it are, well, twats who should be punished. But sending them to jail for any length of time would be a perfect illustration of why our jails are so full we’re either having to let actual societal dangers out early or not sending them there in the first place.
We’re mostly violently agreeing apart from the custodial sentence bit. But that’s fine.I only mentioned the value, as it's been mentioned several times ( I guess if you walked into Dobbies and wanted a 200 year old sessile oak that's what youd expect to pay). For many worldwide by the way, monetary value doent even come into it, for many it's a spiritual place, with spiritual meaning, (bollox maybe) which I suppose many wouldnt understand. Anyway, I completely concur that a sentance of upto 10 years is a bit mad given that some crimes, often against people, dont carry such a hefty sentance. I do however believe some sort of custodial sentance is appropriate in such a high profile case. I would also agree that a complete overhaul of the judicial system is more than overdue.
Indeed.We’re mostly violently agreeing apart from the custodial sentence bit. But that’s fine.
Leaf it out will 'ewPair of saps. Lock them up and throw away the tree.