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[Pompeyjack]

Does the Royal Navy have a role to play in this? As much as the orange man chats shit, it did make me think if the navy could be deployed in some sort of way to patrol the Chanel?

Apparently not. I read a legal expert recently explain why. The people on the boats are illegal migrants until the reach our shores (not asylum seekers) at which point they become asylum seekers. If we tried to turn them back at any point in the channel, the French could do the same.

 

[Smurph]

Apparently not. I read a legal expert recently explain why. The people on the boats are illegal migrants until the reach our shores (not asylum seekers) at which point they become asylum seekers. If we tried to turn them back at any point in the channel, the French could do the same.

Maritime law also states we'd have to rescue any boat in distress, so the idea is a non starter.

 

[MrSwerve]

That sentence probably sums up why we are in this situation.

Don't the Australians use the Navy for their illegal immigration challenges? (Don't quote me on this).

I think the narrowness of the channel makes it difficult - with shared responsibility in parts. Australia are pretty much in the middle of nowhere which might make it easier (I'm guessing there though).

As you say, there must be a lot of complications to doing this. If it was simple, I'm sure the Tory government would have done it. Even Farage has said Reform would only do it as a last resort and he'll say anything even remotely plausible if he thinks it will help win votes.

I'm guessing that's because there are rules about making the boats turn around and return to France. Entering France territory to return them would I guess technically be an act of war?

Yep, it's a legal minefield. Plus if the Navy were deployed, it would take significant resources - i.e. rescue equipment, medical attention, food, etc. Plus you have to get these people assessed/processed. There would also likely be some casualties at some point and that wouldn't look great for the UK.

It's a difficult one. As easy (albeit callous) as it sounds to stick some warships out there and point guns at people until they turn around, it's not really viable.

 

[Pompeyjack]

I think the narrowness of the channel makes it difficult - with shared responsibility in parts. Australia are pretty much in the middle of nowhere which might make it easier (I'm guessing there though).



Yep, it's a legal minefield. Plus if the Navy were deployed, it would take significant resources - i.e. rescue equipment, medical attention, food, etc. Plus you have to get these people assessed/processed. There would also likely be some casualties at some point and that wouldn't look great for the UK.

It's a difficult one. As easy (albeit callous) as it sounds to stick some warships out there and point guns at people until they turn around, it's not really viable.

Easy to resolve. Ask them why they are coming here in the 1st place.

 

[Pompeyjack]

Sorry to hear about your daughter's housing situation, I'm very glad that my renting days are in the past.

I'm no expert on the situation, but I think the reason so many private landlords are selling are the changes the government have made to the rental sector. All done with the intention of collecting more in tax, protecting tenants, and making more homes available for first-time buyers of course, but plenty of landlords are seeing their costs rise and profits drop, so they're selling up.

Thank you for your kind words Jack. I agree totally with your point ref "collecting more tax". Surely if the government wasn't wasting so much money on THIS THREAD then she may not be in this situation.

 

[Pompeyjack]

I'd certainly stop reading the daily mail.

But the BBC are reporting the exact same story but from a different angle. I also have a chuckle to myself when I read some of the mails slant on a story.

 

[Darran]

Isn’t the mailonline behind a paywall now?

 

[Pompeyjack]

Isn’t the mailonline behind a paywall now?

Sorry, I've got no idea what a "paywall" is Darran

 

[J_B]

Isn’t the mailonline behind a paywall now?

Yes. They’d have to pay me a lot of money to read it.

 

[Pompeyjack]

Sorry, I've got no idea what a "paywall" is Darran

Is that when you have to pay to read the story that's behind the headline? If yes, then I would say around 20% of the headlines are indeed paywall (which I don't waste my money on). I only read the free ones. That are of interest to me.

 

[Neath_Jack]

And 1 was on a flight to Paris at around 7am keep up mun. Isn't it funny how we all have something in common (apart from our love of the Swans). We are all paying (financially) for this illegal migrant mess.

I refer you to the previously posted cookie photo. You’re another one that has fallen for the elites bollocks.

 

[Darran]

I refer you to the previously posted cookie photo. You’re another one that has fallen for the elites bollocks.

Ok being serious the UK has other problems too but what in his post do you disagree with then?

 

[Ronald Parp]

Most people need haircuts so that's a positive. I'm not in to vaping so don't really see the benefits of these shops.

Dazzler needs a good haircut.

Down the Turks you go.

 

[Pompeyjack]

I refer you to the previously posted cookie photo. You’re another one that has fallen for the elites bollocks.

Sorry Neath but I don't understand your post. Are you wanting a response from me or are you just making an observation?

 

[Darran]

Dazzler needs a good haircut.

Down the Turks you go.

Bollox.