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EFL refs

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So you'd quite happily stand by the wrong decisions because you didn't want to upset your "leader" and you can't see that being a huge problem.

More than likely just a thing in the league you and the others liked to flaunt your authority over.
You should go and live in the States - an entire nation is being run on that exact principle
 
I've said it before, may as well say it again. Refs make howlers (like the appalling example in this thread of the non red card for the Hackney thuggery kick). Players make howlers. (I haven't seen the Cullen miss but a lot reckon as a professional he should have scored.) These sorts of mistakes cost games.

Then in a typical match, players make lots of lesser mistakes, ditto refs.

There is no excessive bias by refs against us as Swansea. Though generally we are biased against refs.

Ditto scenario for every other football club and their fans across the Country.

Go with the flow guys. Over 46 games it generally evens itself out.

We are where we are at Swansea because of our players - not bloody refs.

No refs - no football . Simple as. It's a game played and reffed by humans. Both make mistakes. It's not one way traffic to refs. Just take our crap shooting for example, as one poster said they need to have extended training to keep the ball from hitting row Z. And they are supposed to be professionals !
 
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Something must be done, i feel retrospective action helps the other clubs rather than the clubs affected.

I've said it before, may as well say it again. Refs make howlers (like the appalling example in this thread of the non red card for the Hackney thuggery kick). Players make howlers. (I haven't seen the Cullen miss but a lot reckon as a professional he should have scored.) These sorts of mistakes cost games.

Then in a typical match, players make lots of lesser mistakes, ditto refs.

There is no excessive bias by refs against us as Swansea. Though generally we are biased against refs.

Ditto scenario for every other football club and their fans across the Country.

Go with the flow guys. Over 46 games it generally evens itself out.

We are where we are at Swansea because of our players - not bloody refs.

No refs - no football . Simple as. It's a game played and reffed by humans. Both make mistakes. It's not one way traffic to refs. Just take our crap shooting for example, as one poster said they need to have extended training to keep the ball from hitting row Z. And they are supposed to be professionals !
This argument falls apart completely when events occur right in front of referees and linesmen, are clear rule breaches, and neither the ref nor the linesmen see it or do anything about it.

The OP here is a good case in point.

I'm not suggesting for a minute that there's "bias" at play here. Just abject incompetence.

This is clearly a group of people who want responsibility within the game but with zero accountability. They even bigger behind the yellow card when criticized!

These. "howlers" as you can them have real world consequences: they can break clubs and destroy seasons. A player subject to multiple "howlers" will be drilled in training or, as a last resort, moved on from a club.

A referee subject to multiple "howlers" can hide behind FA and PGMOL rules and regulations that protects them from criticism! There's no transparency, no clear process and, unlike a player, the referee can't be 'subbed' if having a shitty game. Once a game is concluded, the damage caused by poor officiating has been done.
 
These. "howlers" as you can them have real world consequences: they can break clubs and destroy seasons.
Over 46 games I just don't accept this as valid. Each club will also have bad ref decisions. Likewise each club will have blatant striker or defender mistakes.

I just don't believe also that refs are worse - or better - than in previous years. More TV scrutiny yes.
 

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