EFL refs

[Smurph]

I was a ref for ten years at county level in Herefordshire. You'll never get a lino overruling a ref, it isn't done. The ref might ask advice if he didn't see something, but once he's made a decision, that's it. He will often say before they go out, wait for my lead before you give a throw in. Haven't you seen linos look at the ref and wait for his signal before flagging which team is getting the throw in? That's why.

Why isn’t it done? Surely the person with the best informed decision should be making the correct decision after basically witnessing what happened with their own eyes.

If what you say is true is just proves how incompetent and corrupt the profession is.

 

[Pegojack]

Vasi

Why isn’t it done? Surely the person with the best informed decision should be making the correct decision after basically witnessing what happened with their own eyes.

If what you say is true is just proves how incompetent and corrupt the profession is.

Basically because the officials are a team with a team leader. It would be chaos if the underlings were overruling the leader.

 

[Smurph]

Vasi

Basically because the officials are a team with a team leader. It would be chaos if the underlings were overruling the leader.

Underlings, lovely way to describe part of your team. I'm sure your linesman used to love being in your team.

That sentences sums up why we see such ludicrous decisions up and down the country week in week out. I find it hard to believe that it is how officials operate week in week out.

That's not a team, it's a dictatorship. A team make the right decisions between them even if their "leader" is wrong.

 

[Andrew - North Hill]

That sentences sums up why we see such ludicrous decisions up and down the country week in week out.

That's not a team, it's a dictatorship. A team make the right decisions between them even if their "leader" is wrong.

It's also why they increasingly find less sympathy for the "they have a difficult job" argument. If that sort of stuff is going on, that's nonsense.

When you also chuck in the fact that Howard Webb is on TV issuing apologies left right and centre every week, but does nothing to improve the standards, it's hard to have that sympathy for them.

 

[Smurph]

It's also why they increasingly find less sympathy for the "they have a difficult job" argument. If that sort of stuff is going on, that's nonsense.

When you also chuck in the fact that Howard Webb is on TV issuing apologies left right and centre every week, but does nothing to improve the standards, it's hard to have that sympathy for them.

If that's how a team of professionals operate in this day and age I'd be shocked. It's more than likely incompetence rather than them operating like a Dickensian workhouse.

 

[Pegojack]

Underlings, lovely way to describe part of your team. I'm sure your linesman used to love being in your team.

That sentences sums up why we see such ludicrous decisions up and down the country week in week out. I find it hard to believe that it is how officials operate week in week out.

That's not a team, it's a dictatorship. A team make the right decisions between them even if their "leader" is wrong.

Just telling you how it is, mate, like it or not. I was a lino as often as I was a ref. It wasn't any problem for me.

 

[Neath_Jack]

Not every time surely? Just the marginal ones you mean.

The linos are a waste of space, worse than the referees. Shithouses.

 

[Smurph]

The linos are a waste of space, worse than the referees. Shithouses.

Absolutely they are.

 

[Smurph]

Just telling you how it is, mate, like it or not. I was a lino as often as I was a ref. It wasn't any problem for me.

So you'd quite happily stand by the wrong decisions because you didn't want to upset your "leader" and you can't see that being a huge problem.

More than likely just a thing in the league you and the others liked to flaunt your authority over.

 

[Frankie Burrows Cap]

So you'd quite happily stand by the wrong decisions because you didn't want to upset your "leader" and you can't see that being a huge problem.

More than likely just a thing in the league you and the others liked to flaunt your authority over.

It’s definitely a thing that I’ve seen and heard at many different levels.

I thought when they changed the name from ‘linesman’ to ‘assistant referee’ we might see a change to mirror other team sports at the top level where the assistants are willing to step in and make decisions that the referee has got wrong or missed.

It is a pretty thankless task at all levels, but the quality of officiating across the board is very poor IMO - not sure there’s an easy fix in the short to medium term though.

 

[Smurph]

It’s definitely a thing that I’ve seen and heard at many different levels.

I thought when they changed the name from ‘linesman’ to ‘assistant referee’ we might see a change to mirror other team sports at the top level where the assistants are willing to step in and make decisions that the referee has got wrong or missed.

It is a pretty thankless task at all levels, but the quality of officiating across the board is very poor IMO - not sure there’s an easy fix in the short to medium term though.

We'll have to agree to disagree on this subject.

 

[Andrew - North Hill]

Another thing I have noticed - and this is a problem for the EFL that I'm surprised they haven't clicked onto yet - when some refs who are used to VAR come into a non-VAR environment, they basically bottle big calls because they have been conditioned into doing so by reffing in a VAR environment, knowing it's there to catch their mistakes. It's made them worse onfield refs. But in the EFL we basically have to put up with that and suffer.

 

[Swanjaxs]

So you'd quite happily stand by the wrong decisions because you didn't want to upset your "leader" and you can't see that being a huge problem.

More than likely just a thing in the league you and the others liked to flaunt your authority over.

I'd hate to be a player in the Pego Sunday League with referees like that Smurph

 

[monmouth]

Terrifying that there are thugs about prepared to risk another players livelihood with challenges like that.

It wasn’t a challenge. He just booted him. He might as well have kicked him up the arse, father Ted stylee.

 

[Smurph]

I'd hate to be a player in the Pego Sunday League with referees like that Smurph

Aye, Jaxs, ruining the fun of the game with that type of attitude.