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I am slightly at a loss here.

Andrew was sending this stuff to Epstein via email.

Emails in and out of the royal households will be monitored constantly. By the security services. Who ultimately reported to the old Queen.

Anything he did in person was monitored by his protection officers. Who ultimately reported to the old Queen. She will have been briefed in detail about all of it.

The concept that he was emailing and having meetings without everyone knowing about it is bizarre.

You are talking as though he was a normal person who was hiding stuff from his old Mam.

One of the biggest mysteries about this whole shocking affair is how so many people are so desperate to pretend that the Queen was completely innocent about it all.

Given she’s dead it sort of becomes moot but I, for one, am keen to learn how much is this was known by Charles. If it turns out to be true that Charles used his money to help bail Andrew out then he needs to go immediately. Same applies for William. If he knew he needs to go.

At that point in fact, the whole lot of them need to go.

Probably the same security services that were monitoring Mandelson.
 
Probably the same security services that were monitoring Mandelson.
You’d hope so.

And I would expect / hope that he will be another one who is dealt with appropriately in due course.

To be honest, I don’t hold my breath over any of this. It’s all a completely rancid, sickening shitshow. The scale of this is terrifying.

The reality is though, as many of us know, the police and the authorities in general, don’t give a flying crap about women and girls. Particularly when they’re from so called poorer backgrounds. I’ve thought for a long time that the issue with the grooming gangs wasn’t only a fear of creating racial tension, but simply that the police never believe girls and women, and even in the odd occasion when they do, they don’t care. They just label them all as slags who deserve it.

And you only have to listen to that appalling monster Victoria Hervey to know how the so called upper classes utterly dismiss the so called lesser people. What was it she said? Oh yeah, ‘I don’t care about the girls, have you seen the calibre of them’? Or words to that effect.

Nothing will happen. Unless the King decides to throw him under the bus to save his own position and that of his son. Get rid of the whole lot.
 
I am slightly at a loss here.

Andrew was sending this stuff to Epstein via email.

Emails in and out of the royal households will be monitored constantly. By the security services. Who ultimately reported to the old Queen.

Anything he did in person was monitored by his protection officers. Who ultimately reported to the old Queen. She will have been briefed in detail about all of it.

The concept that he was emailing and having meetings without everyone knowing about it is bizarre.

You are talking as though he was a normal person who was hiding stuff from his old Mam.

One of the biggest mysteries about this whole shocking affair is how so many people are so desperate to pretend that the Queen was completely innocent about it all.

Given she’s dead it sort of becomes moot but I, for one, am keen to learn how much is this was known by Charles. If it turns out to be true that Charles used his money to help bail Andrew out then he needs to go immediately. Same applies for William. If he knew he needs to go.

At that point in fact, the whole lot of them need to go.
I think they knew everything, but it hardly or didn't register as they thought he, and they, can do whatebver they want and it could be covered up. Id hate to think what any of them got up to, as they believed they could behave with impunity. Imagine what Phil The Greek got up to, and I reckon it's a fair bet that the sainted old Queen and her family were of Nazi persuasion when she was young. I hope this destroys them all.
 
I think they knew everything, but it hardly or didn't register as they thought he, and they, can do whatebver they want and it could be covered up. Id hate to think what any of them got up to, as they believed they could behave with impunity. Imagine what Phil The Greek got up to, and I reckon it's a fair bet that the sainted old Queen and her family were of Nazi persuasion when she was young. I hope this destroys them all.
If it doesn’t destroy them I think it’s the beginning of the end. People are seeing them with fresh eyes. And other stuff may start to be looked at as a result. Lots are now questioning their finances and tax position.

On the Nazi stuff, I’m pretty certain they made sure they’d keep their positions whoever won the war. One brother if the Allies won, the other if Germany won.
 
People are naive if they think the royal family will ever end. Certainly within our or grandchildren’s life. All this speculation of ‘ooo could this be the end of the royal family’ is such a load of bollocks.
It won’t end.
 
I am slightly at a loss here.

Andrew was sending this stuff to Epstein via email.

Emails in and out of the royal households will be monitored constantly. By the security services. Who ultimately reported to the old Queen.

Anything he did in person was monitored by his protection officers. Who ultimately reported to the old Queen. She will have been briefed in detail about all of it.

The concept that he was emailing and having meetings without everyone knowing about it is bizarre.

You are talking as though he was a normal person who was hiding stuff from his old Mam.

One of the biggest mysteries about this whole shocking affair is how so many people are so desperate to pretend that the Queen was completely innocent about it all.

Given she’s dead it sort of becomes moot but I, for one, am keen to learn how much is this was known by Charles. If it turns out to be true that Charles used his money to help bail Andrew out then he needs to go immediately. Same applies for William. If he knew he needs to go.

At that point in fact, the whole lot of them need to go.
Yes, you do seem lost. On Friday you kept repeating that everybody knew absolutely everything. You are now keen to learn how much Charles knew. You also seemed convinced that Charles had put up part of the pay off, now you don't seem so sure. And please don't make things up, I haven't once implied that Andrew moves around like a free spirit. You stand by your view that they know absolutely everything and I will stand by my view that only Andrew knows about some elements of his filthy adult life.
 
If only a tenth of the reports of what Epstein and his cronies got up to is true, its truly mind blowing. I'm lost for words.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. The elite live in a completely different world to us ordinary folk, they give not a jot for anyone or anything, apart from themselves, narcissists one and all.
 
Yes, you do seem lost. On Friday you kept repeating that everybody knew absolutely everything. You are now keen to learn how much Charles knew. You also seemed convinced that Charles had put up part of the pay off, now you don't seem so sure. And please don't make things up, I haven't once implied that Andrew moves around like a free spirit. You stand by your view that they know absolutely everything and I will stand by my view that only Andrew knows about some elements of his filthy adult life.

She’s probably one of his neighbours.
 
If only a tenth of the reports of what Epstein and his cronies got up to is true, its truly mind blowing. I'm lost for words.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. The elite live in a completely different world to us ordinary folk, they give not a jot for anyone or anything, apart from themselves, narcissists one and all.
They're not elite, just rich mostly by chance, privilege or connections. Most are thick as shit.

But I know what you mean. It's a different world and, like Succession, one I'm pretty glad I don't inhabit. Venal, empty, scummy lives.
 
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