Keir Starmer

[jack_lord]

Starmer was kept in dark about Mandelson’s vetting by two top civil servants

Exclusive: Officials have spent weeks debating whether or not to release highly sensitive information about the affair

www.theguardian.com

Oh dear. This is genuinely astonishing. The civil service’s default setting is usually to tell anyone and everyone so if it goes tits up there’s always someone else to point at. As I understand it as an outsider of course…

Does offering evidence-based advice, operating under principles of impartiality, anonymity, and permanence ring a bell? Something strange is afoot

 

[RoyalCountyJack]

He survives because our entire political system is bent beyond parody and will only be taken back by civil force and all the internecine horrors that ensues from that..

You can't imagine it happening here in leafy YouKay but it will....Some politico wag once said "Revolution seems impossible until it becomes inevitable"

Numerous case studies from 1850 onwards in Europe can be used as examples...

Britain is currently economically and socially f**ked...and it will get worse.

Sleep tight for now Cygnets.....Winter is coming...buckle up and purchase a helmet.

 

[J_B]

How could he not know?
Did he get a report on the vetting process? If not why not? If he did, did he read it? If he didn't get a report why didn't he ask for it before confirming Mandy's appointment?
I really wanted him to succeed but he's a decent man doing a terrible job in role that he's not cut out for.

 

[RoyalCountyJack]

He's not a decent man... he's a WEF stooge.

He has continually acted against the will of the British people his whole career.

He's a disaster of a PM but sadly there is nobody worthy to replace him.

Career politicians with no convictions other than their own interests has been a thing since 1997 in earnest...

 

[exiledclaseboy]

How could he not know?
Did he get a report on the vetting process? If not why not? If he did, did he read it? If he didn't get a report why didn't he ask for it before confirming Mandy's appointment?
I really wanted him to succeed but he's a decent man doing a terrible job in role that he's not cut out for.

Mandelson’s appointment was confirmed and announced before the vetting process was completed. That’s pretty normal. Appointments are made subject to successful vetting. The issue here is that after the appointment, nobody at either the Cabinet Office or the FCDO thought it was appropriate to tell the PM (or, apparently, any other minister) that the UK’s ambassador to the USA didn’t pass a time consuming but fairly innocuous vetting process.

 

[Niigata Jack]

There’s been at least two worse than him in the last 5 years.

Well he's the currently leader and he's proper Turkey giblets an all.

He's let me down cause I backed him when he became leader, but I soon changed my mind after his feeble attempts to shout down the Torys and I rapidly changed my mind and that's why I never voted in the last GM, then again I don't think I voted in the one before that.

 

[Niigata Jack]

Anyway I'm washing my Steak and Chips down with a glass of Tesco's Finest Malbec and very nice it is to.

 

[Neath_Jack]

Well he's the currently leader and he's proper Turkey giblets an all.

He's let me down cause I backed him when he became leader, but I soon changed my mind after his feeble attempts to shout down the Torys and I rapidly changed my mind and that's why I never voted in the last GM, then again I don't think I voted in the one before that.

How has he let you down if you never voted for him?

 

[Niigata Jack]

How has he let you down if you never voted for him?

Read my post again! fuk my eyes.

 

[Jack2jack]

Anyway I'm washing my Steak and Chips down with a glass of Tesco's Finest Malbec and very nice it is to.

Fvck me. Steak and finest Malbec, someone's doing alright under this labour government.

 

[Neath_Jack]

Read my post again! fuk my eyes.

No need, I read it okay the first time.

 

[Niigata Jack]

No need, I read it okay the first time.

You couldn't have, Otherwise you wouldn't have replied with this, "How has he let you down if you never voted for him?"
Anyway I'm voting in May and it will be for Darren Millar, the only candidate that talks with any sense.

 

[exiledclaseboy]

You couldn't have, Otherwise you wouldn't have replied with this, "How has he let you down if you never voted for him?"
Anyway I'm voting in May and it will be for Darren Millar, the only candidate that talks with any sense.

You can’t vote for Darren Miller. You’ll be voting for the Conservative Party.

 

[Neath_Jack]

You couldn't have, Otherwise you wouldn't have replied with this, "How has he let you down if you never voted for him?"
Anyway I'm voting in May and it will be for Darren Millar, the only candidate that talks with any sense.

Oh, right.

 

[Niigata Jack]

You can’t vote for Darren Miller. You’ll be voting for the Conservative Party.

Well he's the only one that appeals to me, for the reason I mentioned whether he carries out what he says in the unlikely event of him getting in is another matter.
No chance of me voting for any of the others, none at all.