Epstein Files

[Cooperman]

Well it seems to me that there are a couple of possibilities. One is that everyone knew damn well that Mandelson was deep into the Epstein business but he was put in Washington as a warning shot to Trump.

But the second possibility, and this is a bit out there but who knows any more, is that the whole Epstein thing was a Russian/ Israeli operation (that bit I’m increasingly convinced about) and there may have been people ‘inside’ that operation who were actually working for us. But Starmer couldn’t admit that if the US didn’t know, even if he means he goes as a result.

I think it’s possible, however unlikely.

There is definitely more to come, there will be a few more reaching for popcorn moments, without a doubt.

I have a simpler view which is that Mandelson was simply a pig with his nose in the trough, and the lack of due diligence by McSweeney failed to uncover the depths of his past.

 

[Swanjaxs]

Celtic's major shareholder, Dermot Desmond, has been mentioned in the Epstein files, by all accounts.

 

[Londonlisa2001]

Excellent. You should turn that into a script. There’s a 9pm BBC Sunday night six parter there.

I know - I’m quite the conspiracy theorist all of a sudden…

 

[Londonlisa2001]

There is definitely more to come, there will be a few more reaching for popcorn moments, without a doubt.

I have a simpler view which is that Mandelson was simply a pig with his nose in the trough, and the lack of due diligence by McSweeney failed to uncover the depths of his past.

Yeah, but why wouldn’t MI5/6 just have blocked it if it didn’t suit them? They had the right to veto. And I’m struggling to understand how Starmer, a very senior barrister, could suddenly act as if he’s genuinely stupid. Because it was obvious it was coming out. Epstein was a thing way before Mandelson was appointed.

 

[Cooperman]

Yeah, but why wouldn’t MI5/6 just have blocked it if it didn’t suit them? They had the right to veto. And I’m struggling to understand how Starmer, a very senior barrister, could suddenly act as if he’s genuinely stupid. Because it was obvious it was coming out. Epstein was a thing way before Mandelson was appointed.

Or did Mandelson gamble on this level of detail not being regurgitated?

 

[Longlostjack]

Incredible scandal. Starmer is toast. His political judgment was abysmal from Day 1. Frank Gardner BBC Security Correspondent and well connected suspects Russian involvement. How did Epstein make his money?

 

[Trampie]

You are slow on the uptake there Lisa if only now you are starting to think that Epstein and Ghislaine are Israeli assets.
Look at Robert Maxwell, many are sure that he was working for Israel and didn't he introduce his daughter to Epstein ?
Look at Gaza, Israel committing a genocide and it was literally green lighted by our leaders, seems to me that many of our leaders are compromised and work for a foreign power in the shape of Isreal and not us, they are traitors.

 

[monmouth]

Yeah, but why wouldn’t MI5/6 just have blocked it if it didn’t suit them? They had the right to veto. And I’m struggling to understand how Starmer, a very senior barrister, could suddenly act as if he’s genuinely stupid. Because it was obvious it was coming out. Epstein was a thing way before Mandelson was appointed.

Mr Occam wants a word.

There’s definitely a Russian - edit, or/and Israel - angle in this; it would be interesting to know the source of Epstein’s wealth. The whole operation smacks of a massive honey trap.

As to Starmer, I just think he has hardly any political sense at all, so in that context, is stupid, and with Mandelson, got what you get when keeping a poisonous snake too close to you. I do however believe there was some thinking on Starmer’s - or more likely McSweeney’s - part that Mandelson could ‘manage’ Trump in some way through their common love of Epstein. That went well.

 

[Longlostjack]

Yeah, but why wouldn’t MI5/6 just have blocked it if it didn’t suit them? They had the right to veto. And I’m struggling to understand how Starmer, a very senior barrister, could suddenly act as if he’s genuinely stupid. Because it was obvious it was coming out. Epstein was a thing way before Mandelson was appointed.

I don’t understand how, under Five Eyes agreement, the US Dept of Justice documents were not available to MI6.

 

[J_B]

I don’t understand how, under Five Eyes agreement, the US Dept of Justice documents were not available to MI6.

The US is not trustworthy and is unreliable now.

 

[exiledclaseboy]

Angela Rayner has had a good day today.

 

[monmouth]

Angela Rayner has had a good day today.

She was very smiley afterwards apparently. Not the first time she’s had to tell Starmer to stop being an arse.

So effective, and rattles all the baby schoolboys to their core. Such a shame about that tax f**k up. A man gets away with that, no sweat, of course.

 

[exiledclaseboy]

She was very smiley afterwards apparently. Not the fist time she’s had to tell Starmer to stop being an arse.

So effective, and rattles all the baby schoolboys to their core. Such a shame about that tax f**k up. A man gets away with that, no sweat, of course.

That’s not terminal by any means.

 

[Smurph]

I'm surprised that Woody Allen is currently getting a free ride.

 

[monmouth]

That’s not terminal by any means.

Shouldn’t be, but just imagine the pile on near the election.

I’d still be 10x happier with that than Streeting, Phillipson, or Burnham (it won’t be Burnham now anyway).