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    All at JackArmy.net would like to thank everyone who has played a part on this site over the past 25 years whether that is through writing, contributing, moderating, posting or just visting and reading.

    Without any of you the work that has gone into the site would have been pointless and we will always be proud that we built, generated and managed a community that was such a big part of the Swansea City supporting life for so long.

    It has been a pleasure to bring to you the site for so long but the time is now right to turn the lights out for the last time but we do it both with a heavy heart and a sense of pride driven by the so many messages received since we announced the closure.

    The site will remain here for a period until we archive and mothball it for the last time later this summer but all aspects are in a read only format.

    Thank you though for all the memories

    Phil Sumbler
    Owner, jackarmy.net

JackArmy.net - Twenty-Five Years And Out

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Thanks for that. The Indy a few years ago went away from the exclusive route of news as it had its flaws. Good or bad. And now leans mote into insight and discussion. It fundamentally meant you wasnt chasing your tail. I think if the forum was its own entity, it's the platform then for what it is, opinions and views. And a platform to share such news from other outlets to discuss. If Jack Army Net can't be the site for exclusive news or regular insight then it needs to lean into its biggest asset that not even the Indy in all respect gets. And that's the volume of chat. The question then remains if this is a project for those who love the Swans or can it also be beneficial to those working as well in some compacity. That doesn't mean throwing a 100 adverts on the site, but does mean working closely with said outlets that benefits the people on the site and the people running it.
Anyone can claim “exclusive”.

But only JA.net claims “First”.
 
Gonna be a sad day for all swans fans when this site finally closes, i do use the other site but just dont find it user friendly, as other must do too this site ( as witness the matchday thread that often has 5x the pages as that place)
 
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If we could keep the forum alive , that should be the priority. Phil has said to me many times that it’s not the “news” that drives sites like these it’s the forum and the community that builds up around it. People come to these sites for the forum and conversation, not the articles. In the main anyway. If forum posts drop so do clicks, hits and advertising revenue.
I would love to see the forum continue too.

But there will be costs involved which have to be covered somehow. My experience of setting up a website when I was self-employed for a year or so (2005/6, so a long time ago) is that you have to pay for (a) registering a domain name for x number of years, and (b) essentially, renting web storage space on which your content sits. Plus (c) any external content which is public but copyrighted that you’re channeling through, such as fixtures lists, league tables, maybe match highlights, etc. And (d) any bespoke/ editorial content (paying people/ yourself to create stuff) may have a price.

Ideally your forum content is sufficiently interesting that you guarantee advertisers a decent mix of eyeballs and thus break even (or better).

In the right hand margin of these pages (at least on my iPad screen) is a league table provided by Football Web Pages. I wonder if they are the hosts and responsible for much of the above.

In an ideal world the new owner/ manager steps into Phil’s shoes as regards all of the above but that no doubt will call for contracts to be terminated/ renewed …

Just my 2 cents in terms of helping those who want to try to take this on … I am quite motivated by helping others but less so about actually taking anything on myself, as I’m self employed (two jobs, though notionally in retirement) once more and that, plus obligations to close family members having a hard time, has to take priority.
 
I would love to see the forum continue too.

But there will be costs involved which have to be covered somehow. My experience of setting up a website when I was self-employed for a year or so (2005/6, so a long time ago) is that you have to pay for (a) registering a domain name for x number of years, and (b) essentially, renting web storage space on which your content sits. Plus (c) any external content which is public but copyrighted that you’re channeling through, such as fixtures lists, league tables, maybe match highlights, etc. And (d) any bespoke/ editorial content (paying people/ yourself to create stuff) may have a price.

Ideally your forum content is sufficiently interesting that you guarantee advertisers a decent mix of eyeballs and thus break even (or better).

In the right hand margin of these pages (at least on my iPad screen) is a league table provided by Football Web Pages. I wonder if they are the hosts and responsible for much of the above.

In an ideal world the new owner/ manager steps into Phil’s shoes as regards all of the above but that no doubt will call for contracts to be terminated/ renewed …

Just my 2 cents in terms of helping those who want to try to take this on … I am quite motivated by helping others but less so about actually taking anything on myself, as I’m self employed (two jobs, though notionally in retirement) once more and that, plus obligations to close family members having a hard time, has to take priority.

How much does it cost Leight?
 
Jack Harris would be a great site owner and expand on his current great contribution.
 
Jack Harris would be a great site owner and expand on his current great contribution.
JH would be a wonderful replacement for Phil, but does he want to do it or have the time to do it ?
Going on what I’ve read on here about what is involved it appears to take a lot of time and knowledge to run a site as brilliantly as Jackarmy.net has been since its inception.
I certainly hope that someone has enough knowledge and experience in this type of project and the passion to keep this site alive.
I would miss this site tremendously, which has kept me informed and entertained for many years and hope for a last minute reprieve to keep us all sane through the summer.
If it doesn’t happen then we’ll still be Swans fans and worry and get ecstatic in equal measure through the next season and many more to come (hopefully) but here’s hoping 🤞
Huge thanks to Phil, all mods and contributors.

ps Phil should be officially recognised as an off-field club legend along with the brilliant Kev Johns.
 
JH would be a wonderful replacement for Phil, but does he want to do it or have the time to do it ?
Going on what I’ve read on here about what is involved it appears to take a lot of time and knowledge to run a site as brilliantly as Jackarmy.net has been since its inception.
I certainly hope that someone has enough knowledge and experience in this type of project and the passion to keep this site alive.
I would miss this site tremendously, which has kept me informed and entertained for many years and hope for a last minute reprieve to keep us all sane through the summer.
If it doesn’t happen then we’ll still be Swans fans and worry and get ecstatic in equal measure through the next season and many more to come (hopefully) but here’s hoping 🤞
Huge thanks to Phil, all mods and contributors.

ps Phil should be officially recognised as an off-field club legend along with the brilliant Kev Johns.

Great post Big J.
 
I agree it will be a shame to lose the forum. This is obviously - well to a technophobe like me- quite a sophisticated set up with adverts etc. Seems there are plenty of more basic options if you Google 'Free Messageboards" if someone wanted to set something up without bells and whistles.
 
Just a thought. Would Jim W be interested in the tech side of such a new venture or olympic style batten handover in due course? I know there is a whole heap of unwanted negativity that comes from the role, including unfair criticism coming regrettably from some of my mates BUT it is a broad church. Just a thought... Long live the King!
 
Just a thought. Would Jim W be interested in the tech side of such a new venture or olympic style batten handover in due course? I know there is a whole heap of unwanted negativity that comes from the role, including unfair criticism coming regrettably from some of my mates BUT it is a broad church. Just a thought... Long live the King!
Jim W lost his ass when the heat started coming his way, not for me.
 
Anyone who tries to keep this site’s legacy alive is going to need a lot of help, a thick skin, a high tolerance level of stupidity and the ability to ignore loud shouters. I hope someone does. If they do they’ll at least have plenty of help and support as this thread and the reaction to Phil’s decision shows.
 
Jack Harris would be a great site owner and expand on his current great contribution.
Thanks Ringwood, I’m here for Matchday Threads, assist in day to day matters and moderation if required, but being a site owner would be a bridge too far for me the moment.
 

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