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£500k for Cooper

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I think it was well worth us paying that to get rid of him ...
 
Decent job by Winter to be fair.

Cooper was on pennies in footballing managing terms according to reports and that has paid for the compo we had to give for Martin, happy days.
 
Itchysphincter said:
Still a cracking bit of business.

I’d love to know how all this came about.
Everyone reckons Cooper was the one that wanted out so why did we continue paying him and were we paying all his staff like MM and MM too or had we payed them off?
Offset against £500k it’s not much.
 
Darran said:
Itchysphincter said:
Still a cracking bit of business.

I’d love to know how all this came about.
Everyone reckons Cooper was the one that wanted out so why did we continue paying him and were we paying all his staff like MM and MM too or had we payed them off?
Offset against £500k it’s not much.

He probably wanted to be sacked so it looks like Winter has saved as few quid at least by not letting him go. Cooper might have thought about walking out but every time he tried he kept walking forward and backwards until he finally shat his pants in the corner.
 
It looks like it was a game of chicken between Winter and Cooper all summer. We'll never know what effect us holding firm and not sacking him has had on our season (appointing Martin so late), but at least it's worked out financially.

It was a gamble in that no-one may have wanted Cooper and we would have carried on paying him not to be our manager, but Winter correctly believed that a Championship club would panic after a bad start and go for the obvious option of a manager who finished in the top 6 twice in a row.
 
Touting himself to the Prem since January and ends up at Forest.I think he'll keep them up and i'd be surprised if he turned them into anything more than a mid table Championship side.
 
JoshTheJack said:
Touting himself to the Prem since January and ends up at Forest.I think he'll keep them up and i'd be surprised if he turned them into anything more than a mid table Championship side.

He should do that fairly easily. It will be interesting to see if he can go one better than he did with us. I have a feeling he will be flavour of the month for a while.
 
Itchysphincter said:
Darran said:
I’d love to know how all this came about.
Everyone reckons Cooper was the one that wanted out so why did we continue paying him and were we paying all his staff like MM and MM too or had we payed them off?
Offset against £500k it’s not much.

He probably wanted to be sacked so it looks like Winter has saved as few quid at least by not letting him go. Cooper might have thought about walking out but every time he tried he kept walking forward and backwards until he finally shat his pants in the corner.

:lol:
 
Itchysphincter said:
Still a cracking bit of business.

Picture this scenario. RM turns things around from this point onwards, takes us to within a few points of the playoff spots, does enough to attract premier league interest like Potter did, says cheery bye bye, leaving us at the drawing board like groundhog bleeding day. Would that still be a cracking bit of business compared to giving him the old heave ho a bit sooner, getting old Russell Hobbs in a bit sooner, and getting those extra few points needed in this scenario?

OK, a bit far fetched, but it's within the realms. What I'm saying is, we'll judge how good this business is at the end of the season, when we know how good a decision it's been to dig our heels in to save every penny on Cooper at the expense of having a proper preparation for the season.
 
Jacket said:
Itchysphincter said:
Still a cracking bit of business.

Picture this scenario. RM turns things around from this point onwards, takes us to within a few points of the playoff spots, does enough to attract premier league interest like Potter did, says cheery bye bye, leaving us at the drawing board like groundhog bleeding day. Would that still be a cracking bit of business compared to giving him the old heave ho a bit sooner, getting old Russell Hobbs in a bit sooner, and getting those extra few points needed in this scenario?

OK, a bit far fetched, but it's within the realms. What I'm saying is, we'll judge how good this business is at the end of the season, when we know how good a decision it's been to dig our heels in to save every penny on Cooper at the expense of having a proper preparation for the season.

Your first paragraph, that's surely a pretty good scenario for a club of our size, with the best scenario obviously being promotion. Martin would still have 2 years on his contract, meaning we would get a hefty compensation payment for losing our manager (£3m for Potter wasn't it?). We then look for another manager who wants to play the same kind of football and he's got some transfer funds to play with once we appoint him. Obviously we'd rather keep him, but that's not realistic.

Agree with your second paragraph in that this has been a success financially, but we don't know if it the money was worth the delay in appointing Martin and the subsequent slow start to the season. We won't really know at the end of the season either, as we can't know what difference it would have made to our season if we'd binned Cooper and appointed Martin earlier. For all we know, it wouldn't have been Martin at that point, perhaps Eustace would have taken the job then. Who knows?
 
Probably made it clear he wanted to leave so the club stuck him on paid gardening leave until the end of his contract. He gets paid to sit on his arse and we get payment if somebody wants him before contract expires. Win win for both.
 

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