Digital I.D

[exiledclaseboy]

This is a very popular argument and one with some merit. But i definitely sit on the wing that maybe fine in most cases. But let’s say we have a Farage takeover and be gets rid of things like the human rights act and all other elements.

Be careful what you wish for. True YOU maybe fine but what happens when they start splitting up families, people who are lgbt etc because a nefarious Gov uses powers that encroach.

I do agree that largely things like CCTV have helped with crime but face recognition software is not perfect by any stretch.

How much more creeping encroachment and intervention into lives is acceptable. Or are we happy to sacrifice it all to feel a bit safer in our beds especially as a heterosexual white man.

And this is exactly right.

 

[Swanjaxs]

This is a very popular argument and one with some merit. But i definitely sit on the wing that maybe fine in most cases. But let’s say we have a Farage takeover and be gets rid of things like the human rights act and all other elements.

Be careful what you wish for. True YOU maybe fine but what happens when they start splitting up families, people who are lgbt etc because a nefarious Gov uses powers that encroach.

I do agree that largely things like CCTV have helped with crime but face recognition software is not perfect by any stretch.

How much more creeping encroachment and intervention into lives is acceptable. Or are we happy to sacrifice it all to feel a bit safer in our beds especially as a heterosexual white man.

Keep your nose clean, abide by the law and things we be alright. I'm in the "I'm alright jack" camp, been in employment since 17 years of age. I'm happy to be safer in my bed, and am more than willing to lay in it

 

[Cooperman]

No complaints from me about the concept, but let’s see what the consultation finds in terms of some of the peculiar circumstances.

Re cash, I’m as good as cashless now and I don’t bother with local currency for international travel either. Even the guy selling butter chicken on the New Delhi street corner has contactless. My biggest cash spend these days is probably giving the postie, the bin man and the Tesco’s guy £20 at Christmas. There is a fiver in my wallet which must have been there for at least three months.

 

[Andrew - North Hill]

What amazes me is with everything that's currently wrong with the country - the economy is stagnating, our prisons are at tipping point, our courts and schools are quite literally crumbling, and much more besides - they're busying themselves pissing around with the concept of ID cards.

They're floundering. They're flailing around in the dark, hoping they might strike gold. A total shower of shit, that's what they are.

 

[rockinj]

Keep your nose clean, abide by the law and things we be alright. I'm in the "I'm alright jack" camp, been in employment since 17 years of age. I'm happy to be safer in my bed, and am more than willing to lay in it

Fair enough

 

[Cooperman]

That’s not a hoax

 

[ThurrockJack]

Instinctively any form of mandatory ID, digital or otherwise, makes me nervous because it’s so open to abuse by a nefarious government.

Never really understood this arguement. A nefarious government would just introduce it themselves if it wasn't already a thing.

 

[Jack2jack]

Well if you want to drive you need a licence. If you want to travel you need a passport. If you want to do either of those things and many others thing, including opening a bank account or getting credit, you need to probe who you are somehow. My point is that it’s the illusion of choice. All this stuff, the databases etc already exist.

The amount of choices available are being eroded at a rate of knots, and I dont buy into the argument that folk are not willing to change it's not about that it's all about being able to chose what is right for you, not what a bank or institution or a corporate thinks is good for you.
I have no issue with passing a driving test to make sure iam safe to do so, I have no issue with proving who iam to set up a bank account so that I can safety store my money away, those are choices iam willing to accept, there are limits.

 

[exiledclaseboy]

Never really understood this arguement. A nefarious government would just introduce it themselves if it wasn't already a thing.

Yes that’s a fair point.

 

[stevethejack]

I use cash all the time. If a shop or pub is cashless I won't use them. The only time I use a card is online, I don't have a digital card in any shape on a phone or anything else.

I cannot remember the last time I used a card that wasn't online. I always have cash on me and will always use cash, waiting for a till with a person rather than use a self-service card till.

The increasing use of cards is eroding cash, and it's a very dangerous step for a society to go cashless.

Cyber attacks, tills down, internet outages, with cash it's far less of an issue for people who sensibly use cash.

 

[Jack2jack]

I use cash all the time. If a shop or pub is cashless I won't use them. The only time I use a card is online, I don't have a digital card in any shape on a phone or anything else.

I cannot remember the last time I used a card that wasn't online. I always have cash on me and will always use cash, waiting for a till with a person rather than use a self-service card till.

The increasing use of cards is eroding cash, and it's a very dangerous step for a society to go cashless.

Cyber attacks, tills down, internet outages, with cash it's far less of an issue for people who sensibly use cash.

That's what I'm saying, you have a choice, and it's for you to make, as it should be. Good on ya.

 

[Michu78]

If you have watched Black Mirror, this digital ID along with cashless society will be a great enslavement tool for governments, god knows how dark this eventually will end up. It seems like Labour are in a rush to push everything sinister out before they hand the baton over.

 

[PenlanJack]

Government and Police do it anyway, you genuinely believe this lot are abiding by law and order.. they're called the b*stards for a reason, they're attempting to legalise their snooping bollocks.. the drug dealers have to go old school, with scrolls and birds, but they won't arrest them, because the Dr's are prescribing 100s of people on Marijuana and other narcotics to keep the economy in south wales booming.. just legalise it all, I'm getting old, a line of cocaine or Marijuana is no worse than a bottle of absinthe at 80% volume you can buy from the shop.. legalizing it and doing it properly without chemicals is sanity

 

[JackSomething]

Government and Police do it anyway, you genuinely believe this lot are abiding by law and order.. they're called the b*stards for a reason, they're attempting to legalise their snooping bollocks.. the drug dealers have to go old school, with scrolls and birds, but they won't arrest them, because the Dr's are prescribing 100s of people on Marijuana and other narcotics to keep the economy in south wales booming.. just legalise it all, I'm getting old, a line of cocaine or Marijuana is no worse than a bottle of absinthe at 80% volume you can buy from the shop.. legalizing it and doing it properly without chemicals is sanity

I thought you were another alt account of LaJolla to start with, but is that you Skip?

 

[PenlanJack]

I thought you were another alt account of LaJolla to start with, but is that you Skip?

No it's his brother, Police who clean up a crime scene, without leaving any fabric or material in sight are not using their skills to commit crimes like hacking, information gathering, and other covert operations leaving no evidence to speak about.. law abiding citizens my a*se.. they were having a good old knees up in 10 downing street.. and it wasn't just the conservative back benchers in that room, it's funny isn't it, how literally no criminal proceedings took place, it's all about a piss up, jolly and image to entice some business heads to give them a new job after resigning for some moral discrepancy.. absolute bellends, the country is absolutely f*cked