Duff

[PSumbler]

https://twitter.com/swansnews/status/1704245498935144632

 

[sainthelens]

This is only going to end one way now Phil shirley?

 

[PSumbler]

This is only going to end one way now Phil shirley?

Undoubtedly for me

 

[Skippyjack]

Duff isn't the problem Phil, runs deeper than the manager, especially with rumours of discontent amongst players and our DOF acting a bit of an idiot.. another Monk situation is happening IMO.. Fulton, Grimes, Allen, Naughton are the poison that is running fairwood, they all know they're on their way out.. the fact Grimes has convinced the owners to spunk millions on the tw*t for another 4 years is mystifying

 

[magicdaps10]

Duff isn't the problem Phil, runs deeper than the manager, especially with rumours of discontent amongst players and our DOF acting a bit of an idiot.. another Monk situation is happening IMO.. Fulton, Grimes, Allen, Naughton are the poison that is running fairwood, they all know they're on their way out.. the fact Grimes has convinced the owners to spunk millions on the tw*t for another 4 years is mystifying

We all know the yanks are the major problem here....not got a clue as proven with these appointments.
Duff needs to go first and foremost and then the rest needs sorting from there.

Duff was the wrong choice.......7 games of the same old without any chunk of light.

 

[Niigata Jack]

https://twitter.com/swansnews/status/1704245498935144632

YES! there's more chance of me winning the lottery, than Duff turning this shambles around, he said before the Cardiff game that they had, had two good weeks, I'm fuked to think where we'd be if they had, had two bad weeks ffs :x

 

[Roger]

He’s useless. But sack him and then what? The rot starts from the top. We’re going down, quote me on that.

 

[TerryPHELAN]

For me, once the eleven cross the line, the buck stops with them. Yes, there are other factors to consider too, but the players have got a lot to answer for!

 

[LeonWasTheDog's]

it's beginning to look like this is unsalvageable without a a change in ownership. We'll be cheaper to buy and a more attractive proposition for potential owners in L1. I don't suppose Ryan Reynolds and Rob McElhenney fancy another challenge do they - at least they know to put appropriate footballing people in charge of the day to day running of the club :lol:

 

[jack_lord]

Shame Michael and Catherine can't have a vision of how Hollywood good really bring a town (/now a city) together and show us the money. #someonesoldtothewrongamericans

 

[TheLoneRanger]

Cheltenham are looking for a new manager!! :lol:

 

[T8AD365]

It's been a poor start to the season but after 7 games last season we were also sitting in 22nd position in the table (albeit we had 6 points instead of the 3 we have now) and went on to finish 10th despite only winning 3 games in half a season. There are still 39 games left to play and we are only 6 points off midtable.

There's been a massive turnover of players (we still had a player making his debut in Tuesday's game) so surely Duff should be given time to work with a settled side? Sacking him at this stage would mean more than a quarter of the season would be sacrificed by the time a new manager is appointed and gets to work with the players.

I do think many fans are being far too precious with some of Duff's quotes as well. Saying he wouldn't care about losing twice to Cardiff if we got promoted was met with people saying he doesn't understand the derby etc but it was a perfectly reasonable thing to say in my opinion. Too many of us would be perfectly happy to finish 20th if it meant Cardiff finished 21st and we beat them twice, it's a very small minded view.
Him saying he's here to win games and not win over the fans was another one that wasn't controversial because surely if the team is winning games then the fans would be happy? I think he meant more that it doesn't matter whether or not he is liked because the results are more important.

Unfortunately, a lot of the fanbase seem to have reached the point of no return with Duff already. Hopefully a win on Saturday will give us all a much needed boost and some points on the board but our run of fixtures in October and November look particularly difficult so it could end up being the end of Duff sooner rather than later

 

[Arthurmorgan]

It's been a poor start to the season but after 7 games last season we were also sitting in 22nd position in the table (albeit we had 6 points instead of the 3 we have now) and went on to finish 10th despite only winning 3 games in half a season. There are still 39 games left to play and we are only 6 points off midtable.

There's been a massive turnover of players (we still had a player making his debut in Tuesday's game) so surely Duff should be given time to work with a settled side? Sacking him at this stage would mean more than a quarter of the season would be sacrificed by the time a new manager is appointed and gets to work with the players.

I do think many fans are being far too precious with some of Duff's quotes as well. Saying he wouldn't care about losing twice to Cardiff if we got promoted was met with people saying he doesn't understand the derby etc but it was a perfectly reasonable thing to say in my opinion. Too many of us would be perfectly happy to finish 20th if it meant Cardiff finished 21st and we beat them twice, it's a very small minded view.
Him saying he's here to win games and not win over the fans was another one that wasn't controversial because surely if the team is winning games then the fans would be happy? I think he meant more that it doesn't matter whether or not he is liked because the results are more important.

Unfortunately, a lot of the fanbase seem to have reached the point of no return with Duff already. Hopefully a win on Saturday will give us all a much needed boost and some points on the board but our run of fixtures in October and November look particularly difficult so it could end up being the end of Duff sooner rather than later

I can agree on the Cardiff quote in its context, and you’re right, there are an element who want to beat them above all, and in essence his quote was correct, however, it was the promotion part of the comment that irked me, but also kinda made me think he’s got good ambition, what I’m meaning is he has to have that confidence, but I don’t think speaking to press is entirely his forte, I think as we’re in such a negative state, people will dwell on what he states, and that doesn’t translate well when we’re not performing, I personally would love to say we have a luxury of time to give him as I don’t want rid of any manager this soon in the process and proceedings, but i just can’t envisage him being the right fit at all, I really hope you’re right and I’m wrong, and we can beat Wednesday and possibly start clicking, isn’t that what we all want in fairness, but being in the shat as we are it’s just hard to see a way out and I think many feel the same way, but I also think this has been coming too not just under duff, there’s far more than management of playing behind it.

 

[T8AD365]

I can agree on the Cardiff quote in its context, and you’re right, there are an element who want to beat them above all, and in essence his quote was correct, however, it was the promotion part of the comment that irked me, but also kinda made me think he’s got good ambition, what I’m meaning is he has to have that confidence, but I don’t think speaking to press is entirely his forte, I think as we’re in such a negative state, people will dwell on what he states, and that doesn’t translate well when we’re not performing, I personally would love to say we have a luxury of time to give him as I don’t want rid of any manager this soon in the process and proceedings, but if just can envisage him being the right fit at all, I really hope you’re right and I’m wrong, and we can beat Wednesday and possibly start clicking, isn’t that what we all want in fairness, but being in the shat as we are it’s just hard to see a way out and I think many feel the same way, but I also think this has been coming too not just under duff, there’s far more than management of playing behind it.

I know what you mean, he's a very dour personality and everything he says is black and white so it's always going to rub some people up the wrong way.
I guess it depends on who's responsible for sacking the manager now at board level. When you think that the last manager wasn't sacked despite only winning 3 games in half a season then it would suggest the board won't be making a snap decision with Duff based on less than 10 games in charge.
I'm still in the "give him time" camp at the moment but we really need to start seeing some clear improvements (in both performances and results) starting on Saturday

 

[Arthurmorgan]

I know what you mean, he's a very dour personality and everything he says is black and white so it's always going to rub some people up the wrong way.
I guess it depends on who's responsible for sacking the manager now at board level. When you think that the last manager wasn't sacked despite only winning 3 games in half a season then it would suggest the board won't be making a snap decision with Duff based on less than 10 games in charge.
I'm still in the "give him time" camp at the moment but we really need to start seeing some clear improvements (in both performances and results) starting on Saturday

Let’s be honest, not many would care at all about press words if we were performing positively but losing, and that is unfair, and it’s not just the factor of it’s a results business, we have to factor a lot, I know it doesn’t mean much, but it’s made me think of the preseason game v Oxford, where I was amazed and bemused that people were booing, it’s a preseason ffs I thought, but makes you think now were they seeing into the future
But I guess also he could be dour because of results, maybe we’d see a different duff if all is going well, words in media are a bit of a filler to appease all the trimmings, I mostly don’t take much notice even in good times, and I get that it’s good to have a manager who ultimately wants the club to perform, and is strong enough to ignore elements of fans, yet be approachable and appreciative to said fan base, right as we speak that’s not happening at all, and every word he’s saying is scrutinised as that’s the nature of being in a bit of a mire, I certainly don’t think that’s right, or helping, but I have been a bit annoyed at his statements, and maybe that is on me being over sensitive because we’re in the doldrums, no one’s got the god given right to march up the league and win every game, and sometimes we’re entitled as a fanbase as we came from near footballing obscurity to the promised land in seemingly a blink of an eye, and have been spoiled along the way, but now that spoiling treatment is at a standstill we are in a position of look what we had, and now look where we are, and that didn’t happen overnight, so it’s not mr Duff to blame in that context be perfectly fair, let’s hope that from Saturday he can start getting EVERYONE onside and go forward, I want to see it, just hard to see it.