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I'm suprised Bury are that low having scored at least 1000 goals in each of the top divisions
 
ABSwan said:
JackSomething said:
Surprised to see Sunderland in the top 10. Above clubs who I think of having richer histories like West Ham, Leeds and Southampton.

Be interesting if there was a way to introduce recency bias to the results. Make recent seasons worth more than 100 years ago somehow.

That's what I'm thinking to put in, create a table based on the last 50 years for example, make the time period a variable I input. Another thing I'm thinking is between a start and end year to see the best teams over a specific period.

All good for practicing coding :

Can do it only from 2011. we would be Champions League material :lol:
 
Saw a similar league table that had Aston Villa similarly that high up but incredibly with a minus goal difference.
 
Blackpooljack said:
Saw a similar league table that had Aston Villa similarly that high up but incredibly with a minus goal difference.

Their record below shows a total plus 746

TEAM Aston Villa
RATING 7373
TOTAL SEASONS 121
TOTAL PLAYED 4760
TOTAL WON 1942
TOTAL DRAWN 1149
TOTAL LOST 1669
TOTAL SCORED 7606
TOTAL CONCEDED 6860
TOTAL GOAL DIF 746
TOTAL POINTS 5582

This includes 106 seasons in the top flight with a +505 GD, 13 seasons at the second level with +180 GD and 2 seasons in the third level with a GD +61.

So unless that table was based on all matches (all cups included) and the cups they conceded more than 750 goals more than scored.
 
I’ve seen several people say on twitter that Swansea City deserve to be back in their rightful place.

Where’s that the third division? :lol:
 
Blackpooljack said:
I'm suprised Bury are that low having scored at least 1000 goals in each of the top divisions

Bury's record in the top two divisions

Top Division
SEASONS T1 22
PLAYED T1 804
WON T1 279
DRAWN T1 180
LOST T1 345
SCORED T1 1176
CONCEDED T1 1340
GOAL DIF T1 -164
POINTS T1 738


Second Division
SEASONS T2 39
PLAYED T2 1622
WON T2 601
DRAWN T2 352
LOST T2 669
SCORED T2 2396
CONCEDED T2 2572
GOAL DIF T2 -176
POINTS T2 1575

So yes, they did score more than a 1000 goals in the top two divisions, they also have a negative goal difference overall in the top two divisions.

What drags them down is the number of years in the bottom two divisions

Third Division
SEASONS T3 30
PLAYED T3 1334
WON T3 471
DRAWN T3 355
LOST T3 508
SCORED T3 1783
CONCEDED T3 1792
GOAL DIF T3 -9
POINTS T3 1533


Fourth Division
SEASONS T4 24
PLAYED T4 1092
WON T4 442
DRAWN T4 312
LOST T4 338
SCORED T4 1544
CONCEDED T4 1287
GOAL DIF T4 257
POINTS T4 1566

Which means they scored more than a 1000 goals in all 4 divisions, the 4th being the only one they have a positive GD.

Scoring more than a 1000 goals in all 4 divisions is a rare achievement, some quick filtering found that only two teams have this achievement, one being Bury, who can guess the other???
 
Darran said:
I’ve seen several people say on twitter that Swansea City deserve to be back in their rightful place.

Where’s that the third division? :lol:

A few more good seasons will see our rightful place rise to the 2nd division lol.
 
ABSwan said:
Which means they scored more than a 1000 goals in all 4 divisions, the 4th being the only one they have a positive GD.

Scoring more than a 1000 goals in all 4 divisions is a rare achievement, some quick filtering found that only two teams have this achievement, one being Bury, who can guess the other???

Someone like Blackpool or Bolton?
 
Darran said:
I’ve seen several people say on twitter that Swansea City deserve to be back in their rightful place.

Where’s that the third division? :lol:

I enjoyed the quote from (I think) Swansea City in the age of Premiership: Swansea spent 40 years in the second division, interrupted only by Adolf Hilter. Then they spent 40 years in the bottom two divisions, interrupted only by John Toshack.
 
JackFish said:
ABSwan said:
Which means they scored more than a 1000 goals in all 4 divisions, the 4th being the only one they have a positive GD.

Scoring more than a 1000 goals in all 4 divisions is a rare achievement, some quick filtering found that only two teams have this achievement, one being Bury, who can guess the other???

Someone like Blackpool or Bolton?

Someone like but not one of these, a team obviously who had early success then dropped down.
 
ABSwan said:
Blackpooljack said:
Saw a similar league table that had Aston Villa similarly that high up but incredibly with a minus goal difference.

Their record below shows a total plus 746

TEAM Aston Villa
RATING 7373
TOTAL SEASONS 121
TOTAL PLAYED 4760
TOTAL WON 1942
TOTAL DRAWN 1149
TOTAL LOST 1669
TOTAL SCORED 7606
TOTAL CONCEDED 6860
TOTAL GOAL DIF 746
TOTAL POINTS 5582

This includes 106 seasons in the top flight with a +505 GD, 13 seasons at the second level with +180 GD and 2 seasons in the third level with a GD +61.

So unless that table was based on all matches (all cups included) and the cups they conceded more than 750 goals more than scored.
in the Premier League era they are 9th overall with a minus 84 goal diff.
 
ABSwan said:
Blackpooljack said:
I'm suprised Bury are that low having scored at least 1000 goals in each of the top divisions

Bury's record in the top two divisions

Top Division
SEASONS T1 22
PLAYED T1 804
WON T1 279
DRAWN T1 180
LOST T1 345
SCORED T1 1176
CONCEDED T1 1340
GOAL DIF T1 -164
POINTS T1 738


Second Division
SEASONS T2 39
PLAYED T2 1622
WON T2 601
DRAWN T2 352
LOST T2 669
SCORED T2 2396
CONCEDED T2 2572
GOAL DIF T2 -176
POINTS T2 1575

So yes, they did score more than a 1000 goals in the top two divisions, they also have a negative goal difference overall in the top two divisions.

What drags them down is the number of years in the bottom two divisions

Third Division
SEASONS T3 30
PLAYED T3 1334
WON T3 471
DRAWN T3 355
LOST T3 508
SCORED T3 1783
CONCEDED T3 1792
GOAL DIF T3 -9
POINTS T3 1533


Fourth Division
SEASONS T4 24
PLAYED T4 1092
WON T4 442
DRAWN T4 312
LOST T4 338
SCORED T4 1544
CONCEDED T4 1287
GOAL DIF T4 257
POINTS T4 1566

Which means they scored more than a 1000 goals in all 4 divisions, the 4th being the only one they have a positive GD.

Scoring more than a 1000 goals in all 4 divisions is a rare achievement, some quick filtering found that only two teams have this achievement, one being Bury, who can guess the other???
i thought Bury were the only team but there you go, am interested to know who the other team is
 
Blackpooljack said:
ABSwan said:
Bury's record in the top two divisions

Top Division
SEASONS T1 22
PLAYED T1 804
WON T1 279
DRAWN T1 180
LOST T1 345
SCORED T1 1176
CONCEDED T1 1340
GOAL DIF T1 -164
POINTS T1 738


Second Division
SEASONS T2 39
PLAYED T2 1622
WON T2 601
DRAWN T2 352
LOST T2 669
SCORED T2 2396
CONCEDED T2 2572
GOAL DIF T2 -176
POINTS T2 1575

So yes, they did score more than a 1000 goals in the top two divisions, they also have a negative goal difference overall in the top two divisions.

What drags them down is the number of years in the bottom two divisions

Third Division
SEASONS T3 30
PLAYED T3 1334
WON T3 471
DRAWN T3 355
LOST T3 508
SCORED T3 1783
CONCEDED T3 1792
GOAL DIF T3 -9
POINTS T3 1533


Fourth Division
SEASONS T4 24
PLAYED T4 1092
WON T4 442
DRAWN T4 312
LOST T4 338
SCORED T4 1544
CONCEDED T4 1287
GOAL DIF T4 257
POINTS T4 1566

Which means they scored more than a 1000 goals in all 4 divisions, the 4th being the only one they have a positive GD.

Scoring more than a 1000 goals in all 4 divisions is a rare achievement, some quick filtering found that only two teams have this achievement, one being Bury, who can guess the other???
i thought Bury were the only team but there you go, am interested to know who the other team is

A very old team who recently lost league status.
 

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