How big a team are we (and others)

[Darran]

I’ve seen several people say on twitter that Swansea City deserve to be back in their rightful place.

Where’s that the third division? :lol:

I enjoyed the quote from (I think) Swansea City in the age of Premiership: Swansea spent 40 years in the second division, interrupted only by Adolf Hilter. Then they spent 40 years in the bottom two divisions, interrupted only by John Toshack.

Brilliant. :mrgreen:

 

[ABSwan]

Notts County

Yup.

be a good quiz question that lol

 

[ABSwan]

I haven't added the division filter yet but I have added a range of years, so this table is the team ratings for all 4 divisions since the first Premier League season, 92-93. Below is where we are, still behind the giants.

38 Wigan Athletic 1465
39 Millwall 1458
40 Bristol City 1420
41 Preston North End 1406
42 Huddersfield Town 1381
43 Cardiff City 1379
44 Swansea City 1309
45 Hull City 1255
46 Brighton & Hove Albion 1238
47 Bournemouth 1219
48 Brentford 1187
49 Blackpool 1146

 

[ABSwan]

The full table contains 112 teams

1 Manchester United 2539
2 Arsenal 2495
3 Liverpool 2479
4 Chelsea 2472
5 Tottenham Hotspur 2392
6 Everton 2318
7 Newcastle United 2290
8 Aston Villa 2262
9 Manchester City 2254
10 West Ham United 2222
11 Blackburn Rovers 2088
12 Southampton 2073
13 Middlesbrough 2030
14 Leicester City 2016
15 Sunderland 1970
16 Leeds United 1951
17 West Bromwich Albion 1939
18 Crystal Palace 1907
19 Bolton Wanderers 1884
20 Norwich City 1878
21 Wolverhampton Wanderers 1869
22 Derby County 1867
23 Birmingham City 1826
24 Ipswich Town 1815
25 Stoke City 1813
26 Watford 1781
27 Fulham 1771
28 Nottingham Forest 1746
29 Queens Park Rangers 1746
30 Sheffield Wednesday 1737
31 Sheffield United 1734
32 Charlton Athletic 1729
33 Reading 1671
34 Burnley 1654
35 Coventry City 1593
36 Portsmouth 1519
37 Barnsley 1483
38 Wigan Athletic 1465
39 Millwall 1458
40 Bristol City 1420
41 Preston North End 1406
42 Huddersfield Town 1381
43 Cardiff City 1379
44 Swansea City 1309
45 Hull City 1255
46 Brighton & Hove Albion 1238
47 Bournemouth 1219
48 Brentford 1187
49 Blackpool 1146
50 Swindon Town 1086
51 Tranmere Rovers 1075
52 Bradford City 1071
53 Oldham Athletic 1056
54 Peterborough United 995
55 Walsall 979
56 Rotherham United 975
57 Crewe Alexandra 960
58 Gillingham 938
59 Port Vale 936
60 Wimbledon 916
61 Plymouth Argyle 876
62 Luton Town 850
63 Southend United 849
64 Colchester United 823
65 Scunthorpe United 762
66 Doncaster Rovers 759
67 Bristol Rovers 739
68 Notts County 725
69 Grimsby Town 720
70 Oxford United 715
71 Wycombe Wanderers 685
72 Chesterfield 676
73 Stockport County 676
74 Bury 671
75 Milton Keynes Dons 564
76 Northampton Town 563
77 Leyton Orient 561
78 Rochdale 547
79 Shrewsbury Town 547
80 Carlisle United 525
81 Hartlepool United 509
82 Wrexham 453
83 Yeovil Town 420
84 Exeter City 359
85 Cambridge United 341
86 Lincoln City 320
87 Burton Albion 317
88 Cheltenham Town 314
89 Mansfield Town 308
90 York City 292
91 Fleetwood Town 263
92 Accrington Stanley 212
93 Torquay United 212
94 Barnet 201
95 Darlington 195
96 Stevenage 185
97 Crawley Town 163
98 Macclesfield Town 160
99 Chester City 154
100 Afc Wimbledon 141
101 Morecambe 118
102 Hereford United 107
103 Dagenham & Redbridge 106
104 Newport County 76
105 Rushden & Diamonds 74
106 Scarborough 56
107 Aldershot Town 55
108 Boston United 49
109 Kidderminster Harriers 49
110 Forest Green Rovers 39
111 Halifax Town 26
112 Salford City 14

 

[ABSwan]

Now I've added a Division Filter, here's the rating table for the premier league since it started, it looks like my data matches others as we're 28th.

1 Manchester United 2539
2 Arsenal 2495
3 Liverpool 2479
4 Chelsea 2472
5 Tottenham Hotspur 2392
6 Everton 2318
7 Newcastle United 2076
8 Aston Villa 2065
9 Manchester City 1955
10 West Ham United 1947
11 Southampton 1682
12 Blackburn Rovers 1494
13 Sunderland 1248
14 Middlesbrough 1190
15 Leicester City 1143
16 Fulham 1122
17 Bolton Wanderers 1034
18 Leeds United 1010
19 West Bromwich Albion 938
20 Crystal Palace 859
21 Stoke City 808
22 Coventry City 703
23 Norwich City 703
24 Sheffield Wednesday 648
25 Wimbledon 646
26 Charlton Athletic 641
27 Wigan Athletic 627
28 Swansea City 566
29 Portsmouth 554
30 Queens Park Rangers 553
31 Birmingham City 552
32 Derby County 550
33 Watford 537
34 Burnley 473
35 Wolverhampton Wanderers 472
36 Bournemouth 396
37 Nottingham Forest 391
38 Ipswich Town 385
39 Hull City 377
40 Sheffield United 311
41 Reading 234
42 Brighton & Hove Albion 232
43 Huddersfield Town 150
44 Bradford City 149
45 Cardiff City 148
46 Oldham Athletic 146
47 Barnsley 74
48 Blackpool 74
49 Swindon Town 71

 

[ABSwan]

I did the top division only since the end of WW2. 60 teams, we drop to 41 and Brentford is at the bottom instead of Swindon.

1 Arsenal 6155
2 Manchester United 6151
3 Everton 5696
4 Tottenham Hotspur 5680
5 Liverpool 5646
6 Chelsea 5173
7 Manchester City 4708
8 Aston Villa 4699
9 Newcastle United 4334
10 West Ham United 4256
11 West Bromwich Albion 3504
12 Southampton 3466
13 Leeds United 3072
14 Leicester City 3062
15 Wolverhampton Wanderers 3001
16 Sunderland 2903
17 Nottingham Forest 2861
18 Stoke City 2756
19 Coventry City 2663
20 Burnley 2463
21 Sheffield Wednesday 2429
22 Middlesbrough 2337
23 Bolton Wanderers 2333
24 Birmingham City 2266
25 Blackburn Rovers 2232
26 Derby County 2186
27 Ipswich Town 2126
28 Norwich City 2041
29 Fulham 1948
30 Queens Park Rangers 1844
31 Sheffield United 1752
32 Blackpool 1572
33 Crystal Palace 1554
34 Charlton Athletic 1542
35 Portsmouth 1403
36 Luton Town 1180
37 Wimbledon 1151
38 Watford 1030
39 Preston North End 827
40 Huddersfield Town 762
41 Swansea City 725
42 Wigan Athletic 627
43 Cardiff City 562
44 Brighton & Hove Albion 534
45 Bournemouth 396
46 Hull City 377
47 Bristol City 304
48 Notts County 300
49 Reading 234
50 Oldham Athletic 222
51 Oxford United 222
52 Millwall 156
53 Bradford City 149
54 Grimsby Town 96
55 Barnsley 74
56 Northampton Town 72
57 Carlisle United 71
58 Leyton Orient 71
59 Swindon Town 71
60 Brentford 46

 

[sainthelens]

I did the top division only since the end of WW2. 60 teams, we drop to 41 and Brentford is at the bottom instead of Swindon.

1 Arsenal 6155
2 Manchester United 6151
3 Everton 5696
4 Tottenham Hotspur 5680
5 Liverpool 5646
6 Chelsea 5173
7 Manchester City 4708
8 Aston Villa 4699
9 Newcastle United 4334
10 West Ham United 4256
11 West Bromwich Albion 3504
12 Southampton 3466
13 Leeds United 3072
14 Leicester City 3062
15 Wolverhampton Wanderers 3001
16 Sunderland 2903
17 Nottingham Forest 2861
18 Stoke City 2756
19 Coventry City 2663
20 Burnley 2463
21 Sheffield Wednesday 2429
22 Middlesbrough 2337
23 Bolton Wanderers 2333
24 Birmingham City 2266
25 Blackburn Rovers 2232
26 Derby County 2186
27 Ipswich Town 2126
28 Norwich City 2041
29 Fulham 1948
30 Queens Park Rangers 1844
31 Sheffield United 1752
32 Blackpool 1572
33 Crystal Palace 1554
34 Charlton Athletic 1542
35 Portsmouth 1403
36 Luton Town 1180
37 Wimbledon 1151
38 Watford 1030
39 Preston North End 827
40 Huddersfield Town 762
41 Swansea City 725
42 Wigan Athletic 627
43 Cardiff City 562
44 Brighton & Hove Albion 534
45 Bournemouth 396
46 Hull City 377
47 Bristol City 304
48 Notts County 300
49 Reading 234
50 Oldham Athletic 222
51 Oxford United 222
52 Millwall 156
53 Bradford City 149
54 Grimsby Town 96
55 Barnsley 74
56 Northampton Town 72
57 Carlisle United 71
58 Leyton Orient 71
59 Swindon Town 71
60 Brentford 46

Have you ever kissed a girl ?

 

[ABSwan]

I did the top division only since the end of WW2. 60 teams, we drop to 41 and Brentford is at the bottom instead of Swindon.

1 Arsenal 6155
2 Manchester United 6151
3 Everton 5696
4 Tottenham Hotspur 5680
5 Liverpool 5646
6 Chelsea 5173
7 Manchester City 4708
8 Aston Villa 4699
9 Newcastle United 4334
10 West Ham United 4256
11 West Bromwich Albion 3504
12 Southampton 3466
13 Leeds United 3072
14 Leicester City 3062
15 Wolverhampton Wanderers 3001
16 Sunderland 2903
17 Nottingham Forest 2861
18 Stoke City 2756
19 Coventry City 2663
20 Burnley 2463
21 Sheffield Wednesday 2429
22 Middlesbrough 2337
23 Bolton Wanderers 2333
24 Birmingham City 2266
25 Blackburn Rovers 2232
26 Derby County 2186
27 Ipswich Town 2126
28 Norwich City 2041
29 Fulham 1948
30 Queens Park Rangers 1844
31 Sheffield United 1752
32 Blackpool 1572
33 Crystal Palace 1554
34 Charlton Athletic 1542
35 Portsmouth 1403
36 Luton Town 1180
37 Wimbledon 1151
38 Watford 1030
39 Preston North End 827
40 Huddersfield Town 762
41 Swansea City 725
42 Wigan Athletic 627
43 Cardiff City 562
44 Brighton & Hove Albion 534
45 Bournemouth 396
46 Hull City 377
47 Bristol City 304
48 Notts County 300
49 Reading 234
50 Oldham Athletic 222
51 Oxford United 222
52 Millwall 156
53 Bradford City 149
54 Grimsby Town 96
55 Barnsley 74
56 Northampton Town 72
57 Carlisle United 71
58 Leyton Orient 71
59 Swindon Town 71
60 Brentford 46

Have you ever kissed a girl ?

Some would say more than my fair share. Good idea for a list :lol:

 

[sainthelens]

Have you ever kissed a girl ?

Some would say more than my fair share. Good idea for a list :lol:

Fair play to you, lockdown claims another victim.

 

[benny]

The things you do when your bored and watching bland TV program's in the middle of a pandemic.

Well I decided in my ultimate wisdom to do something that I was half interested in to put my basic clunky Excel VBA skills to good practice. I found an internet resource that listed every single English professional league table in 1889 to last year, pulled all that data and did a little program to take every teams results and place them in a definitive order based on end positions and division through the years.

I presume its no surprise to find Liverpool are the top team, I was a little taken aback our cousins down the road don't appear in the top 10, I assuming I have an error somewhere. Anyway, league table historic top 10.

Rank TEAM RATING
1 Liverpool 7788
2 Arsenal 7726
3 Everton 7631
4 Manchester United 7525
5 Aston Villa 7373
6 Manchester City 7159
7 Newcastle United 7073
8 Tottenham Hotspur 6990
9 Chelsea 6935
10 Sunderland 6834

I have to go down to 38 for our cousins, who group with (5 up and down)

33 Coventry City 4652
34 Ipswich Town 4630
35 Blackpool 4534
36 Queens Park Rangers 4456
37 Crystal Palace 4343
38 Cardiff City 4207
39 Bristol City 4060
40 Hull City 3882
41 Barnsley 3828
42 Watford 3812
43 Luton Town 3761

Unfortunately our years in the 3 and 4th levels have done for us. Lucky we don't say we're giants of any kind.

43 Luton Town 3761
44 Millwall 3726
45 Notts County 3665
46 Oldham Athletic 3575
47 Bury 3470
48 Swansea City 3447
49 Brighton & Hove Albion 3423
50 Reading 3353
51 Plymouth Argyle 3278
52 Grimsby Town 3269
53 Bradford City 3036

Who's at the bottom I hear you ask (well nobodies really bothered I assume)

140 Rotherham Town 9
141 Northwich Victoria 7
142 Bootle 5
143 Middlesbrough Ironopolis 5
144 Thames 4

There’s a relief, just above our main rivals......

 

[Swanjaxs]

The things you do when your bored and watching bland TV program's in the middle of a pandemic.

Well I decided in my ultimate wisdom to do something that I was half interested in to put my basic clunky Excel VBA skills to good practice. I found an internet resource that listed every single English professional league table in 1889 to last year, pulled all that data and did a little program to take every teams results and place them in a definitive order based on end positions and division through the years.

I presume its no surprise to find Liverpool are the top team, I was a little taken aback our cousins down the road don't appear in the top 10, I assuming I have an error somewhere. Anyway, league table historic top 10.

Rank TEAM RATING
1 Liverpool 7788
2 Arsenal 7726
3 Everton 7631
4 Manchester United 7525
5 Aston Villa 7373
6 Manchester City 7159
7 Newcastle United 7073
8 Tottenham Hotspur 6990
9 Chelsea 6935
10 Sunderland 6834

I have to go down to 38 for our cousins, who group with (5 up and down)

33 Coventry City 4652
34 Ipswich Town 4630
35 Blackpool 4534
36 Queens Park Rangers 4456
37 Crystal Palace 4343
38 Cardiff City 4207
39 Bristol City 4060
40 Hull City 3882
41 Barnsley 3828
42 Watford 3812
43 Luton Town 3761

Unfortunately our years in the 3 and 4th levels have done for us. Lucky we don't say we're giants of any kind.

43 Luton Town 3761
44 Millwall 3726
45 Notts County 3665
46 Oldham Athletic 3575
47 Bury 3470
48 Swansea City 3447
49 Brighton & Hove Albion 3423
50 Reading 3353
51 Plymouth Argyle 3278
52 Grimsby Town 3269
53 Bradford City 3036

Who's at the bottom I hear you ask (well nobodies really bothered I assume)

140 Rotherham Town 9
141 Northwich Victoria 7
142 Bootle 5
143 Middlesbrough Ironopolis 5
144 Thames 4

There’s a relief, just above our main rivals......

Fuck off Benny, our club is too big for the likes of you now

 

[benny]

There’s a relief, just above our main rivals......

Fuck off Benny, our club is too big for the likes of you now

Light years bra

 

[Swanjaxs]

Fuck off Benny, our club is too big for the likes of you now

Light years bra

You got it bra

 

[benny]

You should build that new stand now in preparation for next year

 

[sainthelens]

You should build that new stand now in preparation for next year

:lol: only filled yours when we rocked up.