Keir Starmer

[Smurph]

What’s not?

Mr Swerve made the point that there are thick people at both ends of the spectrum. That’s a fact. For there to be credible left to right and right to left debate, you have to have people capable of engaging.

There all thick people in all walks of life, it's just some walks have more than others.

 

[Cooperman]

Welsh Independence.
Then see Rockin’s post on his list of things, mostly those and not necessarily in the order he’s put them.

You?

Rockin’s topics were a bit generic. We all want to be richer blah blah. To be more precise about it:
1. Strengthen the NHS, but not just by chucking more money at it; there must be radical reform that results in accessibility for everyone.
2. Simplify the taxation system.
3. Reform of the benefits system and state pension (the latter will never happen unfortunately)
4. Implement a skills plan for 16-21 year olds that boosts skilled labour through modern apprenticeship schemes, at same time killing off universities who promote useless degree courses that only line the pockets of the backers.
5. Review or foreign aid policy, use it proactively to reduce the impact that is getting debated on here.

I’m not overly pro independence, I’m yet to see strong financial arguments that justify it.

 

[Cooperman]

There all thick people in all walks of life, it's just some walks have more than others.

For sure, but his original point still stands then.

 

[Neath_Jack]

Rockin’s topics were a bit generic. We all want to be richer blah blah. To be more precise about it:
1. Strengthen the NHS, but not just by chucking more money at it; there must be radical reform that results in accessibility for everyone.
2. Simplify the taxation system.
3. Reform of the benefits system and state pension (the latter will never happen unfortunately)
4. Implement a skills plan for 16-21 year olds that boosts skilled labour through modern apprenticeship schemes, at same time killing off universities who promote useless degree courses that only line the pockets of the backers.
5. Review or foreign aid policy, use it proactively to reduce the impact that is getting debated on here.

I’m not overly pro independence, I’m yet to see strong financial arguments that justify it.

Excellent.

 

[Bullworker]

ITS RIGHT TO SUPPORT OUR ALLIES USA AND ISRAEL WITH INTEGRITY AND COURAGE . ITS OAYBACK TIME AGAINST EVIL AXIS.

 

[Cooperman]

On balance, probably yes, but I understand that it’s a complicated one and a that many would oppose it.

Fundamentally it would put everyone’s rights at risk, and that’s huge.

 

[MrSwerve]

Fundamentally it would put everyone’s rights at risk, and that’s huge.

Indeed, not an easy one for me.

 

[exiledclaseboy]

I challenge anyone to read the EHRC and HRA and tell me which of those rights they don’t think should be legally protected

 

[Smurph]

For sure, but his original point still stands then.

You and swerve are spot on, can't disagree with that and I've been guilty of it on this thread.

 

[Neath_Jack]

I challenge anyone to read the EHRC and HRA and tell me which of those rights they don’t think should be legally protected

Reform say they are bad that’s all the right wingers need. No further information needed, they’ll just nod and wave the flag.

 

[Smurph]

Rockin’s topics were a bit generic. We all want to be richer blah blah. To be more precise about it:
1. Strengthen the NHS, but not just by chucking more money at it; there must be radical reform that results in accessibility for everyone.
2. Simplify the taxation system.
3. Reform of the benefits system and state pension (the latter will never happen unfortunately)
4. Implement a skills plan for 16-21 year olds that boosts skilled labour through modern apprenticeship schemes, at same time killing off universities who promote useless degree courses that only line the pockets of the backers.
5. Review or foreign aid policy, use it proactively to reduce the impact that is getting debated on here.

I’m not overly pro independence, I’m yet to see strong financial arguments that justify it.

Only thing that puts me off fully getting behind independence is the fiscal black hole it will create.

When I last looked I can't find any evidence that it could be filled by Wales becoming fully independent.

 

[J_B]

Setting fire to hotels with people in it, that's not an opinion.

Then Reform introducing the person who encouraged that to their conference as a hero.

Scum.

 

[Cooperman]

Only thing that puts me off fully getting behind independence is the fiscal black hole it will create.

When I last looked I can't find any evidence that it could be filled by Wales becoming fully independent.

The same.

 

[Smurph]

Then Reform introducing the person who encouraged that to their conference as a hero.

Scum.

Is that the women who did some bird for it?

 

[J_B]

Is that the women who did some bird for it?

Yes