Luke Williams ahead of Oxford United | Press Conference

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[Swanjaxs]

same. old. same. old...

 

[Ringwood]

No real comment's on how we solve our goal scoring exploits... Great talking about our defence but that alone won't cut it.

 

[Skippyjack]

they'll get their undeserved contracts.. and watch them play like absolute c*nts afterwards, bookmark it.. same happened with Fulton and Grimes.. i know i'm like a broken record, but these guys don't want prem football, they're happy just to plod along on multi millions for being f*cking garbage

 

[Skippyjack]

and i'm glad almost 5,000 fans have deserted us.. they're not idiots

 

[Cinio Dydd Sul]

Another message to the board:

Luke Williams confirms Swansea interest in forward who slipped through fingers

The Swans boss says the club missed out on a move for the winger, who instead joined Oxford United over the summer

www.walesonline.co.uk

Publicly stating the club won't compete with newly promoted from league 1 sides (one with no huge financial clout) for players.

This won't last long.

 

[Skippyjack]

Another message to the board:

Luke Williams confirms Swansea interest in forward who slipped through fingers

The Swans boss says the club missed out on a move for the winger, who instead joined Oxford United over the summer

www.walesonline.co.uk

Publicly stating the club won't compete with newly promoted from league 1 sides (one with no huge financial clout) for players.

This won't last long.

They've spent over 8 million.. Williams has a worse win % than Duff.. it's like a parallel universe on here.. am I the only one who's sane on here

 

[Cinio Dydd Sul]

They've spent over 8 million.. Williams has a worse win % than Duff.. it's like a parallel universe on here.. am I the only one who's sane on here

What's your point?

 

[Deleted member 1454]

They've spent over 8 million.. Williams has a worse win % than Duff.. it's like a parallel universe on here.. am I the only one who's sane on here

Have you ever heard of "net spend"?

Look into it.

 

[Smurph]

Have you ever heard of "net spend"?

Look into it.

They've still spent the money. The owners have shied away from the operating model.

Just wasted it on what appeared to be inferior players.

 

[Deleted member 1454]

They've still spent the money. The owners have shied away from the operating model.

Just wasted it on what appeared to be inferior players.

I agree with the wastage aspect but you can't just go chucking around random (and imo not accurate) figures about for money spent out on players, without taking into account what's also coming in.

It also fails to reflect that transfer monies is completely separate to your wage structure. If you're only offering League One wages - which we're strongly rumoured to be doing these days - then you ain't going to get or retain many Championship level players. Common sense.

 

[Smurph]

I agree with the wastage aspect but you can't just go chucking around random (and imo not accurate) figures about for money spent out on players, without taking into account what's also coming in.

It also fails to reflect that transfer monies is completely separate to your wage structure. If you're only offering League One wages - which we're strongly rumoured to be doing these days - then you ain't going to get or retain many Championship level players. Common sense.

Facts are facts, just because you don't like them doesn't mean you can ignore them. The club have spent money raised from selling other players.

I highly doubt Franco and Eom would have joined on league one wages. If you have to shift the narrative to fit an agenda, I'd question if that was common sense.

 

[Deleted member 1454]

The club have spent money raised from selling other players.

Exactly - so this narrative that the owners have just coughed up £8m (not that that figure is true, but let's pretend) out of their own pocket, for Luke to spend badly (even though we all know it's Watson who spent it), all of it is absolute nonsense.

 

[Smurph]

Exactly - so this narrative that the owners have just coughed up £8m (not that that figure is true, but let's pretend) out of their own pocket, for Luke to spend badly (even though we all know it's Watson who spent it), all of it is absolute nonsense.

Just an observation, your posts tend to contain a lot of whataboutery.

The club have spent roughly eight million on players, none of us will know the exact figure. I don't think anyone has ever suggested it has come from their own pocket.

The transfer committee signed the players based on this data led approach (I believe) with the input of the manager you'd like to think.

Apart from a small minority of people on this forum, most people believe Williams is currently underachieving in his role as manager no matter what hand he's been dealt with players.

We finished the game on Saturday without a recognised striker on the pitch due to the managers tactical changes, let that sink in. Why on earth would you have Grimes, Franco and Allen on the pitch when you're chasing a goal and Cullen and Viptonik withdrawn from the play.

 

[eteb]

Just an observation, your posts tend to contain a lot of whataboutery.

The club have spent roughly eight million on players, none of us will know the exact figure. I don't think anyone has ever suggested it has come from their own pocket.

The transfer committee signed the players based on this data led approach (I believe) with the input of the manager you'd like to think.

Apart from a small minority of people on this forum, most people believe Williams is currently underachieving in his role as manager no matter what hand he's been dealt with players.

We finished the game on Saturday without a recognised striker on the pitch due to the managers tactical changes, let that sink in. Why on earth would you have Grimes, Franco and Allen on the pitch when you're chasing a goal and Cullen and Viptonik withdrawn from the play.

Can't argue with that