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Name the next variant lottery.

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That just shows the folly of parroting “data not dates” while at the same time naming firm dates. In short, Johnson is an idiot but that’s no shock to anyone.
 
exiledclaseboy said:
That just shows the folly of parroting “data not dates” while at the same time naming firm dates. In short, Johnson is an idiot but that’s no shock to anyone.

Further confirmation of that.

https://twitter.com/hillyfoz/status/1404491256189927430?s=21
 
exiledclaseboy said:
That just shows the folly of parroting “data not dates” while at the same time naming firm dates. In short, Johnson is am idiot but that’s no shock to anyone.

Responsibility for this additional lockdown should be laid firmly at Boris’s door; had he applied the red status to India (who had much higher infection rates than both Pakistan and Bangladesh) at the same time it was imposed on Pakistan and Bangladesh we may not be in our current position and could probably have completely opened up. Heard on the radio earlier that the Indian variant is now the main variant in Wales. It’s infuriating.
 
MajorR said:
exiledclaseboy said:
That just shows the folly of parroting “data not dates” while at the same time naming firm dates. In short, Johnson is am idiot but that’s no shock to anyone.

Responsibility for this additional lockdown should be laid firmly at Boris’s door; had he applied the red status to India (who had much higher infection rates than both Pakistan and Bangladesh) at the same time it was imposed on Pakistan and Bangladesh we may not be in our current position and could probably have completely opened up. Heard on the radio earlier that the Indian variant is now the main variant in Wales. It’s infuriating.

I agree with most of that but it needs to be clear that this isn’t an additional lockdown. It’s a delay in further easing of restrictions. In England. I don’t think anyone can sensibly argue that we’re in lockdown anymore.
 
exiledclaseboy said:
MajorR said:
Responsibility for this additional lockdown should be laid firmly at Boris’s door; had he applied the red status to India (who had much higher infection rates than both Pakistan and Bangladesh) at the same time it was imposed on Pakistan and Bangladesh we may not be in our current position and could probably have completely opened up. Heard on the radio earlier that the Indian variant is now the main variant in Wales. It’s infuriating.

I agree with most of that but it needs to be clear that this isn’t an additional lockdown. It’s a delay in further easing of restrictions. In England. I don’t think anyone can sensibly argue that we’re in lockdown anymore.

Certainly not anyone who's ventured out of their front door recently. Had to visit various places around Swansea today for work and almost everywhere seemed as busy as it would have been on a weekday pre-Covid. With the exception of the Civic Centre car park, that was almost empty, but then the library was shut and most staff based in the building are working from home.
 
JackSomething said:
exiledclaseboy said:
I agree with most of that but it needs to be clear that this isn’t an additional lockdown. It’s a delay in further easing of restrictions. In England. I don’t think anyone can sensibly argue that we’re in lockdown anymore.

Certainly not anyone who's ventured out of their front door recently. Had to visit various places around Swansea today for work and almost everywhere seemed as busy as it would have been on a weekday pre-Covid. With the exception of the Civic Centre car park, that was almost empty, but then the library was shut and most staff based in the building are working from home.

Heard a report on Radio 4 saying traffic levels in the UK are close to pre-pandemic levels.
 
The latest nervousness is I suspect due to the characteristics of the "delta" variant. I've updated a table I have here, but the highlights are (in terms of how many people would be infected from a single person after a 10th transmission IF nothing was done, ie standard R number). The "Kent" jump explains the knee jerk short notice lockdown we had over the weekend a while ago, IMHO;

'Flu: 58 people
Mumps: 61 Billion
Measles: 3.5 Trillion
Original Wuhan Covid: 9.5k
Europe 1st Wave: 59k
Alpha (Kent?): 3.4M
Delta (Indian?): 4.5B

So, the "transmissability" (if there is such a word) is increasing with each variant. The question the virologists probably can't answer without evidence (i.e. delay?) is how the current vaccine copes with delta, and how the virus will evolve. For example, the 'flu standard R number is 1.5, but what was it when it started off? 0.1, 0.2 etc.? As flu evolves (hence tweak annual vaccine), its severity seems unchanged. Personally I didn't agree with the Covid strategy from day 1, but we are where we are and I guess the powers that be want evidence that although the R number is higher with each variant, its severity is unchanged (as seems to be the case thus far).

Oh and variant names - how about naming them similar to hurricanes. Boris variant sounds good, then Nicola, Mark etc.?!
 
Cooperman said:
exiledclaseboy said:
That just shows the folly of parroting “data not dates” while at the same time naming firm dates. In short, Johnson is an idiot but that’s no shock to anyone.

Further confirmation of that.

https://twitter.com/hillyfoz/status/1404491256189927430?s=21

HOW did the UK get into the position where it elected as it's Prime Minister a blustering, self serving, babbling idiot? I don't know whether to laugh or cry......
 
Cooperman said:
exiledclaseboy said:
That just shows the folly of parroting “data not dates” while at the same time naming firm dates. In short, Johnson is an idiot but that’s no shock to anyone.

Further confirmation of that.

https://twitter.com/hillyfoz/status/1404491256189927430?s=21
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 And to think that is leading us through the worst crisis in recent times. FFS.
 
Jackmanandboy said:
Heard a report on Radio 4 saying traffic levels in the UK are close to pre-pandemic levels.

Was talking earlier to a colleague in work. His commute is Coventry to Milton Keynes and he hasn't done it so much in recent times due to the work from home policy. However he came into office yesterday and today and said the traffic was as bad as it ever had been.
 
Pegojack said:
Cooperman said:
Further confirmation of that.

https://twitter.com/hillyfoz/status/1404491256189927430?s=21

HOW did the UK get into the position where it elected as it's Prime Minister a blustering, self serving, babbling idiot? I don't know whether to laugh or cry......

It was either him or Corbyn, and Johnson obviously beat him, if it was anyone else Bojo would've lost
 

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