Player collapses in Italy

[bakajack]

Udinese v Roma match abandoned after Evan Ndicka collapses

Roma defender Evan Ndicka is in "good spirits" in hospital after collapsing during his side's Serie A clash at Udinese on Sunday night.

www.bbc.co.uk

I know that the Eriksson one brought a lot of publicity but if I recall there have been a few such cases in the Italian league since then.
Concerning indeed and not just for the Italian leagues but football in general, the physical demands and workloads on players has never been higher, for all those who have a pop at them getting paid to kick a leather balloon around for 90 minutes it is way more than that.

FIFA consistently ignoring signs of overloading players with no rest periods chasing $$$$

 

[exiledclaseboy]

Covid vaccine nut jobs will be all this.

 

[cmajack]

Udinese v Roma match abandoned after Evan Ndicka collapses

Roma defender Evan Ndicka is in "good spirits" in hospital after collapsing during his side's Serie A clash at Udinese on Sunday night.

www.bbc.co.uk

I know that the Eriksson one brought a lot of publicity but if I recall there have been a few such cases in the Italian league since then.
Concerning indeed and not just for the Italian leagues but football in general, the physical demands and workloads on players has never been higher, for all those who have a pop at them getting paid to kick a leather balloon around for 90 minutes it is way more than that.

FIFA consistently ignoring signs of overloading players with no rest periods chasing $$$$

How come players from the 1970s , who used to play 55- 60 games a season were not having anywhere near the incidents that are happening in modern day football. ? Just asking a serious question. Todays players we are told, are eating healthier, playing less than players 40 years ago , and have all the best health equipment at their disposal. It just doesn't add up.

 

[Neath_Jack]

Covid vaccine nut jobs will be all this.

A lot of them have now moved on to chemtrails / contrails. I keep falling into threads about them on Twitter. They are absolutely stark raving. The ‘for you’ side of Twitter is off the scale

 

[Niigata Jack]

Seems to be more and more of these incidents, 100% agree with Bakajack its ridiculous at the amount of physically demanding workloads these players have to go through I expect that they are regularly checked and monitored, but still!!

 

[exiledclaseboy]

A lot of them have now moved on to chemtrails / contrails. I keep falling into threads about them on Twitter. They are absolutely stark raving. The ‘for you’ side of Twitter is off the scale

I saw something le Tiss said about the government making sure we had nice weather during covid or something similar. The fecking lunatic.

 

[sainthelens]

How come players from the 1970s , who used to play 55- 60 games a season were not having anywhere near the incidents that are happening in modern day football. ? Just asking a serious question. Todays players we are told, are eating healthier, playing less than players 40 years ago , and have all the best health equipment at their disposal. It just doesn't add up.

Lot to be said in having few pints and a bag of chips.
Worked OK in the 70s n 80s.

 

[magicdaps10]

How come players from the 1970s , who used to play 55- 60 games a season were not having anywhere near the incidents that are happening in modern day football. ? Just asking a serious question. Todays players we are told, are eating healthier, playing less than players 40 years ago , and have all the best health equipment at their disposal. It just doesn't add up.

I think it did happen(not to the extent today though) but today the Internet makes such stories more reportable to a worldwide audience.
A lot of African players or with African heritage are collapsing, they are at far higher risk to suffer heart issues and there were far less African players playing in the era you mentioned.

 

[Swanjaxs]

Lot to be said in having few pints and a bag of chips.
Worked OK in the 70s n 80s.

Stan Bowles used to get changed into his kit then walked across the road to the bookies before kick off, admits to having a fag at half time, never did him any harm Saint

 

[bakajack]

How come players from the 1970s , who used to play 55- 60 games a season were not having anywhere near the incidents that are happening in modern day football. ? Just asking a serious question. Todays players we are told, are eating healthier, playing less than players 40 years ago , and have all the best health equipment at their disposal. It just doesn't add up.

Quite a few differences:

First of all the game is much faster paced than it was 40 years ago, the speed of the game and the physical intensity is way higher. Combine that with an over 100% increase in the distance they cover in a game on average and yeah run further and harder than they ever did back 40-50 years ago. A quick google says the average footballer today runs about 7 (10.7km) miles per game, in the 70s it was well under half that at about 2.8 miles per game (4km) Even if a footballer played twice as many games in a season 40 years ago (they didn't) it would still be less than they run now.

While footballers certainly eat healthier and live healthier (in theory) than back in the 70s and 80s it is a double edged sword, you are fine tuning your body to be good at once thing and stressing your body to the limits. When you constantly live on the edge like that there is only so much that damaging and recovering your body over and over and over again that your body can handle before the stress gets to you in some way or another. Its why someone might shrug off a dead leg picked up in a Sunday league game within a few minutes but it can rule out a professional player for a couple of weeks.

Added to both of the above is the significantly reduced extended recovery time that players have. While the world cup and European championships have been a thing since the 70s the scope was far smaller and would consist of far less games than they do now. Similarly the scope for qualification is bigger than ever and more and more games are being shoehorned into the international breaks, usually that means a player would play twice during that two week period plus training sessions and usually international travel. That's on top of a domestic season where a player will play twice a week more weeks than not once you factor in the cups and/or European football competitions.

Lets look at a club like Man City who last season won the treble and reached the final in the other cup.
38 league games
7 FA Cup rounds
6 League Cup rounds
13 Champions League fixtures

That's 64 games just for the domestic club, during a major international tournament season a club looking to get to for example the World Cup final a player could prospectively be looking at 8 internal matches for qualifying/friendlies and 7 world cup fixtures for another 15 games.

That's almost 80 potential games in a season where a player is covering well over twice as much ground with far less rest in between moments of high intensity activity. While admittedly very few players will play every minute of every game in those potential games and that's only what the most successful players of the most successful clubs will potentially face it is a demand many many times higher than any would have faced 40 years ago. Acute conditions might have never flared up back then but nowadays they can and are becoming more prevalent combined with a much easier access to global news networks to report on the incidents.

You can (and I practically have) write an essay on the subject and honestly I have only touched on the tip of the iceberg.

 

[K23]

Quite a few differences:

First of all the game is much faster paced than it was 40 years ago, the speed of the game and the physical intensity is way higher. Combine that with an over 100% increase in the distance they cover in a game on average and yeah run further and harder than they ever did back 40-50 years ago. A quick google says the average footballer today runs about 7 (10.7km) miles per game, in the 70s it was well under half that at about 2.8 miles per game (4km) Even if a footballer played twice as many games in a season 40 years ago (they didn't) it would still be less than they run now.

While footballers certainly eat healthier and live healthier (in theory) than back in the 70s and 80s it is a double edged sword, you are fine tuning your body to be good at once thing and stressing your body to the limits. When you constantly live on the edge like that there is only so much that damaging and recovering your body over and over and over again that your body can handle before the stress gets to you in some way or another. Its why someone might shrug off a dead leg picked up in a Sunday league game within a few minutes but it can rule out a professional player for a couple of weeks.

Added to both of the above is the significantly reduced extended recovery time that players have. While the world cup and European championships have been a thing since the 70s the scope was far smaller and would consist of far less games than they do now. Similarly the scope for qualification is bigger than ever and more and more games are being shoehorned into the international breaks, usually that means a player would play twice during that two week period plus training sessions and usually international travel. That's on top of a domestic season where a player will play twice a week more weeks than not once you factor in the cups and/or European football competitions.

Lets look at a club like Man City who last season won the treble and reached the final in the other cup.
38 league games
7 FA Cup rounds
6 League Cup rounds
13 Champions League fixtures

That's 64 games just for the domestic club, during a major international tournament season a club looking to get to for example the World Cup final a player could prospectively be looking at 8 internal matches for qualifying/friendlies and 7 world cup fixtures for another 15 games.

That's almost 80 potential games in a season where a player is covering well over twice as much ground with far less rest in between moments of high intensity activity. While admittedly very few players will play every minute of every game in those potential games and that's only what the most successful players of the most successful clubs will potentially face it is a demand many many times higher than any would have faced 40 years ago. Acute conditions might have never flared up back then but nowadays they can and are becoming more prevalent combined with a much easier access to global news networks to report on the incidents.

You can (and I practically have) write an essay on the subject and honestly I have only touched on the tip of the iceberg.

Thanks for that. A well researched and informative post